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  • #16
    Originally posted by logres View Post
    Unfortunately, too many ricer guys in southern CA have modded front wheel drive "launchers" (like Nissan Altima's) that are just too good off the line. I would never be able to catch up to them before the 1/8 ends.
    Come on Wayne, tell me your not letting the possibility of someone with a lesser vehicle beating you is keeping you from going to the track?

    I line up agaist ANYone/anything.

    Hell.. just last friday night I ran a FOX body mustang that ran deep into the 6's in the 1/8th.
    But the guy only beat me to the stripe by less than a TENTH (MOV was .09)

    Just because some kid in an altima MIGHT beat you, is no reason "not to go".
    I consider those "losses" as a "lesson in humility".. no skin off my back

    I got beat by a freaking VW and a Saturn on SPRAY and I laughed my *SS off the entire run.
    Who cares if you win or lose at a TNT race...Seriously.

    I kick the crap out of 12-13 second Subaru's with my 14 second luxoyatch.
    Those guys dont "stop coming to the track" because Grandmas Car BEAT THEM.

    GET to the track, even an 1/8th mile track.. get some passes under your belt and get that car into a bracket race where the drivers consistancy and the cars performance will WIN YOU MANY RACES!
    (peer pressure smile)
    95 Lincoln Mark VIII
    14.18 @ 98.33
    SCT Tuned by ME, STOLEN by some dirtbag 4-13-08 w/400,480 miles
    http://crazy8sracing.net/

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    • #17
      I can use it for the log but i guess it doesn't work for 1/8 mile or i am not doing something right
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      98 LINCOLN MARK VIII LSC
      94 LINCOLN MARK VIII BASE
      97 LINCOLN MARK VIII LSC

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Kracker View Post
        I can use it for the log but i guess it doesn't work for 1/8 mile or i am not doing something right
        No you are correct.. the program bases it's caculations off 1/4 mile ET and 1/4 mile MPH.

        Here is where you CAN fudge the data if you are so inclined.

        I have thousands of 1/4 mile passes.
        there is a formula used to convert 1/8th mile ET into 1/4 mile ET.

        you mulitiply the 1/8th mile ET X 1.53 and it will give you a very CLOSE estimate as to what your quarter mile ET would have been based on your 1/8th mile ET.

        You get this "conversion ratio" by dividing 1/4 mile ET by the 1/8th mile ET
        14.55 divided by 9.4936 =1.5326 <--see?

        MPH is where it get's tricky...

        USUALLY most mark 8's/cars will only pick up between 17-20MPH between the 1/8th and the 1/4 mile MPH.

        just "add" 20MPH to your 1/8th mile MPH and that should get you into the ball park.

        I picked one of my 1/4 mile timeslips at random, one of the 10 or so laying on my desk at work.

        1/8th mile ET is 9.4936
        1/8th mile MPH is 77.44
        Actual 1/4 mile time on the slip is 14.55
        Actual 1/4 mile MPH on the slip is 97.11

        Multiply the 9.4936 X 1.53 =14.525

        Look at hte 1/8th mile MPH compared to the 1/4 mile MPH and the "general 20MPH rule applies".
        77+20=97MPH!

        Granted, this conversion ratio is "for my car".... some cars use a 1.54 or a 1.2 converstion ratio.. but the 1.53 will work fine.

        So long as you are consistant with your data input it can really help you evaluate what is going on with your car.

        If you make a trip to Ennis/Metroplex and get a couple of 1/4 mile runs in, then you can figure out your own "conversion ratio".
        but I'd be willing to bet.. your ratio is 1.53 as well.

        Give it a shot..
        95 Lincoln Mark VIII
        14.18 @ 98.33
        SCT Tuned by ME, STOLEN by some dirtbag 4-13-08 w/400,480 miles
        http://crazy8sracing.net/

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        • #19
          Conversion ratio will vary from car to car depending on how well the car moves in the 1/8th compared to how well it moves from the 1/8th to the 1/4.

          I've seen ratio's between 1.52 and 1.55.. just FWIW.
          95 Lincoln Mark VIII
          14.18 @ 98.33
          SCT Tuned by ME, STOLEN by some dirtbag 4-13-08 w/400,480 miles
          http://crazy8sracing.net/

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          • #20
            Good info Tommy.
            98 LSC Black/Graphite 13.22 @ 108.3; 14.02 at 97 MPH all motor best MPH 99.2
            93 Midnight Opal/Graphite 14.7 @ 94.5mph (bone stock)
            95 LSC Pearl/Black 13.8 @ 101.3mph (rip)
            05 GTO LS2 Silver/Black 12.73 at 108.67mph

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            • #21
              Thanks Serge

              hey, do you have a timeslip handy?
              curious as to what the conversion ratio comes out to with your car?
              95 Lincoln Mark VIII
              14.18 @ 98.33
              SCT Tuned by ME, STOLEN by some dirtbag 4-13-08 w/400,480 miles
              http://crazy8sracing.net/

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              • #22
                Sure, here are my best runs so far with the 98, i've only run it about 10 times or so...

                2.248
                6.287
                9.547 @ 75.92 MPH
                12.316
                14.63 @ 97.32 MPH

                2nd Best
                2.319
                6.361
                9.599 @ 76.32 MPH
                12.354
                14.66 @ 97.16 MPH
                98 LSC Black/Graphite 13.22 @ 108.3; 14.02 at 97 MPH all motor best MPH 99.2
                93 Midnight Opal/Graphite 14.7 @ 94.5mph (bone stock)
                95 LSC Pearl/Black 13.8 @ 101.3mph (rip)
                05 GTO LS2 Silver/Black 12.73 at 108.67mph

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                • #23
                  If you want a *real* drag race program then our Crew Chief Pro 7.0 is quite a bit more powerful than anything else.

                  Not only do we track and calculate everything we interface with weather stations, Predict ETs for changing weather, and even tell you how far you won or lost by in feet and inches. It holds billions of runs so you can never push it's limits.

                  We have "Finish Line Manager" which will tell you exactly how many feet and inches your opponent will be at EVERY interval, which will help you decide to take the stripe or not. If I know you should be 10 feet in front of me at the 1000ft mark and you are farther ahead than that then you will break out.

                  This is a serious program, not a game. We have developed this program for 20 years. If all you do is tinker and not race this is NOT the program for you.
                  Don Higgins
                  www.crewchiefpro.com
                  My other car is an 1100 HP Dragster

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                  • #24
                    while I'll agree the crewcheif program isn't a game it's kind of outside the budget of most of the racers around here.

                    I dont have a dedicated trailer to keep my laptop in, and I'm not a big fan of carrying extra items in the car with me when I'm racing, so I leave my tuning laptop at home generally.

                    If I had a race car with a race car trailer then and investment such as this would be great, but alas I'll stick to my trusty log books and my routine of moving my timeslips to the database that Mike Glover was kind enough to write and release to the public for free.

                    I won back to back to back championships in 2004,2005 and 2006 using the method described above, would "crew chief" do better? sometimes "too much data" can overwhelm the "average bracket racer".

                    If crewcheif had an evaluation copy I'd surely give it a "test drive"...but I really cant see spending that kind of money at this point and time.

                    damn nice program though, dont get me wrong Don.
                    for the right person with a budget that would allow such a purchase.

                    I use a combination of the timeslip manager and an access database my boss wrote for keeping track of timeslips, and my cars performance, undoubtably the crewchief program could do a better job, but I cant "beat the price" of the combination I am using.
                    and.. it's served me well over the years.
                    95 Lincoln Mark VIII
                    14.18 @ 98.33
                    SCT Tuned by ME, STOLEN by some dirtbag 4-13-08 w/400,480 miles
                    http://crazy8sracing.net/

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                    • #25
                      For serious racers there is no other program but ours. Anybody can build a database, but no other program can do everything that ours does.

                      It does require a good weather station for accurate weather analysis and predictions. It becomes more important when you run 200 mph, or higher. I know street cars can get away with much less since the driver is far more important than the weather.

                      I understand our program is far more advanced than anyone needs on this forum. I have 7,000 customers all around the world that rely on it every week to track their runs, Predict their ETs or Throttle Stop Timers, Analyze weather, and make important driving decisions to win a race.

                      When you play in the big leagues you need every tool available.
                      Don Higgins
                      www.crewchiefpro.com
                      My other car is an 1100 HP Dragster

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                      • #26
                        meh, throttle stops, transbrakes, delay boxes.. are all "electronic crutches".

                        We run foot brake NO E classes and "we love dragsters, they taste like CHICKEN".
                        HAHA

                        cutting low "ohs and running dead on" is all it takes, "dont need no stinkin electronic crutches"... WE win on DRIVERS ABILITY and dont depend on such crutches to make out passes WINNING PASSES.

                        You say "anyone" can create a database.

                        Well.. ANYONE can poke numbers into a deadenbear and "leave off the top light that happens to be your opponents slower tree."... Meh... again.

                        WE are drivers/Racers not delay box programmers.

                        I cannot argue your success nor would I try to. 7K customers is no small feat.
                        and.. I still think it's a cool program, just very far outside my budget.

                        I would have to skip the next 10 races to be able to afford your system.
                        I'd rather LOSE the next 10 races than "sit them out" to be able to afford such a system.
                        95 Lincoln Mark VIII
                        14.18 @ 98.33
                        SCT Tuned by ME, STOLEN by some dirtbag 4-13-08 w/400,480 miles
                        http://crazy8sracing.net/

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                        • #27
                          About 30% of my customers are foot brake ET racers. Every stock eliminator car in the country is a foot brake racer.

                          It does not matter what you drive, you still have to drive it well. I can "poke" numbers into my box and go triple zero on the tree, and I can swith cars to my Mark 8 and do the same with out any "driver aids". I still need to know exactly what the ET is going to be, within .005 or closer.

                          Peter Biondo, Lee Zane, Dan Fletcher, and many more professional footbrake racers rely on my software. If you don't know who they are then pick up a National Dragster.

                          You drive well I am sure at your local track. However, like I said before, if you are going to play in the big leagues then you need every tool available to compete. There is no "budget" in "Winning".
                          Don Higgins
                          www.crewchiefpro.com
                          My other car is an 1100 HP Dragster

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                          • #28
                            thanks tommy My hp was only two off from what the dyno said i used the et slip from the same week that i put the car on the dyno
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                            98 LINCOLN MARK VIII LSC
                            94 LINCOLN MARK VIII BASE
                            97 LINCOLN MARK VIII LSC

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                            • #29
                              Was wondering should this sticky be pulled? The link does not work and no one has added for 10 yEARS.

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