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    Hello fellow Lincoln Lovers. I would just like to start off my introduction by saying I am and always have been a Ford/Lincoln guy. I am from Detroit so your choice of a Big Three favorite is always up for scrutiny especially if it's not GM. I joined this website because I was able to get my hands on a 1996 Lincoln Mark VIII. Car has 105 k orig. Miles interior is 9 out of 10 body is 7.7 out of 10. My brother actually traded his 460 with trans and a 390 for this car knowing that it had a blown head gasket. His buddy and him decided that they would try to repair it themselves after pulling the hood, alternator, electrical, vaccum lines, fuel lines, draining fluids, pulling fan, belts, ect. My brother decided to buy himself a home and invest his time and money into his home, this ment that he was going to just scrap this beautiful car and be done with it.. I offered to take it off his hands and bring it back to life! The car came with the Gasket set a new power steering pressure line and a Chilton Service repair manual. I am a novice mechanic at best never swapped a motor or trans but have tools and the willingness to get the beauty back on the road where she belongs! After reading the Chilton repair manual and online research I realized just how big of a job this is to repair a blown head gasket. Called around to shops and quotes stayed between 3 and 5 grand. I decided the best route to take would to buy a motor and swap. Take the orig 105 k motor and work on that in my spare time while I drop in this 96 lincoln motor I have with 30k miles. Now I have realized that it doesnt make life that much easier trying to swap motors. True, the head gasket repair calls for 30 hrs labor and motor swap calls for 12 hrs but I have seen that you can not just simply take the motor out from the top, you have to take it out from the bottom by dropping the K frame. I really would feel more comfortable taking the motor out from the top and putting the new motor in from the top. Is this a bad idea? Help!!!

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    Welcome to the Lincolns of Distinction!

    The engine can be changed by taking it out from the top, most people find it easier to remove it from the bottom. I've done both, although to remove it from the bottom, it helps if it's not too rusty, I've had trouble with the crossmember nuts before on a winter beater.

    Bill
    1994 Deep Jewel Green 183,142 miles
    1997 White LSC 135k miles
    1998 White Collectors Edition 175k
    1994 Black (#2) 100k miles
    1993 Deep Jewel Green Convertible

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    • #3
      Welcome!

      It sounds like you've got an interesting project, and nothing invested in it but your (future) time. It's a great place to start.
      Mike Martin

      1997 Mark VIII LSC 5.0
      2001 Dodge Dakota

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        Welcome

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        • #5
          Welcome!

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          • #6
            Welcome to the Lincolns of Distinction!

            Originally posted by FoMoCoNo1 View Post
            I really would feel more comfortable taking the motor out from the top and putting the new motor in from the top. Is this a bad idea? Help!!!
            Picture it more as lifting the car off the drivetrain when pulling it from the bottom.

            Keep the engine/trans together and use the hoist to pivot the car on a set of jack stands like a teeter totter.

            Without the weight of the drivetrain, the front end is amazingly light and a typical engine hoist will lift the front end high enough to roll the drivetrain out from underneath using a pair of furniture dollies.

            But... if this is your first rodeo, you may be better off jobbing it out. A competent shop can pretty much do a complete swap before you could begin to have the old one out.
            JP

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            • #7
              Welcome
              Norm Wagner

              If you are going through hell, keep going.

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              • #8
                Thank you for the warm welcome guys! Just today I have found a shop that will do the swap 1200 plus parts 600 down takes about a week. Hoping to have this baby purring in time for the spring! So far I am in to this car for about $750 if this shop stays in the 1200 dollar range I will have a beautiful lincoln with 30k for 2,000!!

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                • #9
                  Sounds like a very fair price.

                  Do you know anything about the engine that's going in?
                  Mike Martin

                  1997 Mark VIII LSC 5.0
                  2001 Dodge Dakota

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                  • #10
                    Ha. Motorcity. Is that Detroit ? WELCOME !

                    Let me know if it doesn't work out with that shop. I've done a few of those engine swaps you talk about
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                    Markless.

                    "Do or do not. There is no try" - Yoda

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mad1stGen View Post
                      Ha. Motorcity. Is that Detroit ? WELCOME !

                      Let me know if it doesn't work out with that shop. I've done a few of those engine swaps you talk about
                      He ain't kidding!! /\ /\ /\ /\

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                      • #12
                        I do it came out of a 96 mark viii that was totaled with around 30k miles

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                        Mad1stGen how much to do a swap?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by billcu View Post
                          Welcome to the Lincolns of Distinction!

                          The engine can be changed by taking it out from the top, most people find it easier to remove it from the bottom. I've done both, although to remove it from the bottom, it helps if it's not too rusty, I've had trouble with the crossmember nuts before on a winter beater.
                          Im afraid the only rust on the car is underneath...

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                            Came out of a totaled 96 with around 30 k miles

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                            • #15
                              Jeremi (Mad1stGen) is the best, hands down.. He did the engine swap on my car too, and it's better than new. Quality work, for sure.
                              Mike Martin

                              1997 Mark VIII LSC 5.0
                              2001 Dodge Dakota

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