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    Been a long time mn12 owner and had about 7 of them now, my favorite was a 97 bird with a 98 mark viii engine..so that kinda turned me on years later when this mark 8 came up.
    It is a 98 lsc, has 17in 5 star rims ,red grill and red pinstripes and red calipers, powerstop drilled and slotted rotors and raybestos ceramic pads and brand new calipers,touch screen dvd player sub amp ect... exhaust,cobra cams ,Trac loc,42lb injectors ,90mm lightning mafs and cone filter and currently still working out the tune with losta racing.. it's on it's 2nd test tune and it's still chugging terrible so gonna do a vacuum test and work my way down the chain.might be o2 sensors as it did throw a code f0r 2 days but cleared up but I do have 2 new ones already it's just a pita I heard so I'm scared,lol it's cold out up here in upper michigan.it ran fine on stock tune with the 90mm mafs installed but once the injectors wete in it had a slight chug under load, it seemed to get worse once i installed the tune. Mafs and injectors anre brabd new..any ideas ?
    the air ride functions as it should after months of trouble shooting releveling processes . But had to replace nothing thankfully . It would jack up one rear tire and completely lower the other once parked and shut off..
    It has 108k miles needs some body work ..both doors have dings and one fender has rust one has a decent dent.i already have 2 good replacement doors, will order fenders soon once I have the doors perfect. Also needs a patch in drivers rocker near the rear tire but other than that she's solid and is in great condition..
    Plans are get it looking perfect after the tune is dialed in. Jmod then 410 gears and 1 piece driveshaft.
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    Last edited by 94badbird; 03-09-2018, 12:22 AM.
    98 lsc..trac loc,cobra cams,90mm mafs,exhaust,tune,accel coils,DS rotors and ceramic pads,rims and sounds too.

  • #2
    A great looking car.
    Norm Wagner

    If you are going through hell, keep going.

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    • #3
      Welcome!

      It sounds like you know these cars inside and out. I'm glad to see another midwesterner around, too!
      Mike Martin

      1997 Mark VIII LSC 5.0
      2001 Dodge Dakota

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      • #4
        Well car might be getting sold..
        Got bad life news and in sick or arguing with losota racing about a vacuum leak when I've smoke tested it and checked everything over 100x..
        So if he can't figure it out in chalking up the loss before he destroys my car with these damn data runs..
        Then I'm putting it back to perfect running almost stock condition and selling it and all the parts I got with it..
        98 lsc..trac loc,cobra cams,90mm mafs,exhaust,tune,accel coils,DS rotors and ceramic pads,rims and sounds too.

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        • #5
          Welcome, ...

          I think?

          Don's successfully tuned plenty FN10 cars and has a fine rep. Long and short of it is unless you have data logs that show your stock injector duty cycle above 85% and your stock MAF signal maxed out, you haven't added any 'power'. Likewise, you don't need any bigger MAF or injectors.

          You can't just go willy nilly throwing parts at these cars and expect someone to fix it with a tune.
          JP

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          • #6
            He said it was a simple tune but I guess not..
            I planned running e85 that's why I wanted the bigger injectors..
            I guess I'm just gonna sell one 42s and xcal now and stick with what I got and what runs well..im happy with it performance .
            I guess little by little now the body gets strait.
            No hard feeling with Don, I know his work..and he's a good guy..
            98 lsc..trac loc,cobra cams,90mm mafs,exhaust,tune,accel coils,DS rotors and ceramic pads,rims and sounds too.

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            • #7
              Welcome!

              Bill
              1994 Deep Jewel Green 183,142 miles
              1997 White LSC 135k miles
              1998 White Collectors Edition 175k
              1994 Black (#2) 100k miles
              1993 Deep Jewel Green Convertible

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              • #8
                Welcome

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                • #9
                  If you're talkin' E85, take a close look at Kirk Stromberg's ride. He's had pretty good luck, but it was a long, expensive road..

                  http://www.lincolnsofdistinction.org...1-Time-for-E85
                  Mike Martin

                  1997 Mark VIII LSC 5.0
                  2001 Dodge Dakota

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                  • #10
                    Well I just am now running the listed mods above but the stock injectors,90mm mafs and superchips tuner and it's running and driving great..so I'm just gonna leave that ,sell off the other stuff and do a cobra intake and 410s..
                    Now. With the cobra intake swap please educate me if you personally done this mod.
                    For the egr I plan on cutting the stock tube and running a flexible tube to join them.i know I will have to extend some wires and re route vacuum lines.i will need a different intake too..anything major I'm missing?
                    Do my fuel rails bolt up onto it no issues? Hood clearance ok? Will my throttle cable be ok.?, I have no problem customing a bracket..new gaskets obviously..ummmm? Anything I'm over looking here ?

                    Another note: I am considering a dual 62 or 65mm bbk tbody .I'm not expecting some big gains or something just hoping for better throttle response..i loved the feeling of a 75mm on the sohc 4.6 over the 70mm and by far better than stock..
                    I'm Hoping the 4.6 dohc has similar results with a 62 being a little better throttle response and the 65 being better..with them does the cruise cable and throttle cable hook up to them or would I need to grind the hub down to fit the mark 8 end link? Going to a 65mm dual would it cause diveabity issues ? I know the ecu does a decent job of compensating ..
                    Lol, fill me in gurus.
                    98 lsc..trac loc,cobra cams,90mm mafs,exhaust,tune,accel coils,DS rotors and ceramic pads,rims and sounds too.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 94badbird View Post
                      Now. With the cobra intake swap please educate me if you personally done this mod.
                      For the egr I plan on cutting the stock tube and running a flexible tube to join them.i know I will have to extend some wires and re route vacuum lines.i will need a different intake too..anything major I'm missing?
                      Do my fuel rails bolt up onto it no issues? Hood clearance ok? Will my throttle cable be ok.?, I have no problem customing a bracket..new gaskets obviously..ummmm? Anything I'm over looking here ?
                      If you search for a thread here from DLF on this, it is one of the most comprehensive threads around on installing the 96-98 Cobra intake on an FN10. Are you keeping the IMRC's? Cruise control?

                      EDIT: Here's the link to DLF's thread... http://www.lincolnsofdistinction.org...t=cobra+intake

                      Other than the EGR, it is not really that difficult overall. I installed a Cobra intake on my '96 but without the EGR. It's really a lot of minor details and personal preferences that consume most of the time and energy required for this modification. For me, the wiring was the most that needed modified. The vacuum lines were relatively easy using parts from the stock setup. As for the throttle body, bracket and cable; I used a Cobra throttle body and cable and acquired the bracket from another intake project I had laying around.

                      Originally posted by 94badbird View Post
                      Another note: I am considering a dual 62 or 65mm bbk tbody .I'm not expecting some big gains or something just hoping for better throttle response...
                      FWIW, I have not seen that much difference at all in changing throttle bodies on the DOHC, but I don't think that included BBK in particular. Your mileage may vary.
                      Last edited by driller; 03-18-2018, 11:12 AM.
                      JP

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                      • #12
                        Yes I want to keep my imcr and cruise..
                        I read that thread but didn't see fuel lines addressed other than a sentence about L brackets so I'm guessing stock lines arnt a direct swap?
                        I will keep researching this be for I pull the trigger on one..i know the 1st gen to 2nd gen is a little different . I have a 98 so that's what I have to focus on.
                        98 lsc..trac loc,cobra cams,90mm mafs,exhaust,tune,accel coils,DS rotors and ceramic pads,rims and sounds too.

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                        • #13
                          I'm pretty sure I used a set of Cobra fuel rails on my project. I used AN adapters at the fuel filter, return line and fuel rails and made up fuel hoses with socketless AN fittings to go from the stock fuel lines in the fender well to the fuel rails in the engine bay.
                          JP

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                          • #14
                            I haven't done this, but I've read plenty of these threads. I feel like the stock lines fit, but it's tight. And you'll end up covering up the fuel pressure test valve in the process, and never be able to use it again.
                            Mike Martin

                            1997 Mark VIII LSC 5.0
                            2001 Dodge Dakota

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tixer View Post
                              I haven't done this, but I've read plenty of these threads. I feel like the stock lines fit, but it's tight. And you'll end up covering up the fuel pressure test valve in the process, and never be able to use it again.
                              Lol, that's fine with me...i want to do it with as few mods or hacking stuff up as possible ..
                              Any issues with my imcrs? I see everyone seems to do something with them at the time of the install but maybe just for performance reasons..my last 32v had no imcrs and I couldn't tell a difference of it over my current engine and I prefer to keep mine.
                              98 lsc..trac loc,cobra cams,90mm mafs,exhaust,tune,accel coils,DS rotors and ceramic pads,rims and sounds too.

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