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  • #16
    I thought I'd pop back in and confirm Mad1stGen's answer. I disconnected the cable underneath, and the cable moved freely.

    I'm afraid that I can also confirm that it'll take more than just drenching the shifter arm in WD-40 to free it up... A project for another day..
    Mike Martin

    1997 Mark VIII LSC 5.0
    2001 Dodge Dakota

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    • #17
      Originally posted by tixer View Post
      ... I can also confirm that it'll take more than just drenching the shifter arm in WD-40 to free it up... A project for another day..
      Add it to the LIST.
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      Markless.

      "Do or do not. There is no try" - Yoda

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      • #18
        Can we still buy new Ford parts to fix this?
        98 LSC Torreador Red
        "This fire's thrills per BTU are off the charts!"

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        • #19
          Just eyeballing it, I suspect that if I had bigger ramps, I'd be able to take a better look at it and find the sticky spot. It appeared servicable, but I was wedged in pretty tightly at the time. Hence my dousing it in wd-40 and hoping for the best. (and being subsequently disappointed.)

          Looking for some photos on-line though, it makes more sense. It appears as though the MLPS is in the way. If It were removed, (note the alignment before removal) I'd think you could lubricate the linkage without taking things apart further.

          Here's why I think that. This photo is off of an Explorer forum, but ours is similar. with the exception that the shifter cable is more of a "ball and socket" affair. There's no retainer nut. If you'll look at the surface rust on the pivot and arm, I'd think it is safe to assume that there's more of the same behind the sensor.

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          Mike Martin

          1997 Mark VIII LSC 5.0
          2001 Dodge Dakota

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          • #20
            Mine has gotten horrid, either from time or misuse, or magic.
            Sharon
            98 VIII
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            • #21
              As I go thru my phone, I forgot we snapped this picture while working on Mike Tixer's 97. This is the reason why all these shifters feel stiff. The bare metal linkage rusts inside the MLPS causing the plastic ring to expand. Removing the MLPS in one piece is often impossible in this situation, so be prepared to have a replacement available before you tackle this repair. The rod had to be ground down to clean up the built up rust. All smooth now.

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              "Do or do not. There is no try" - Yoda

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              • #22
                Great pictures Jeremi, Thanks! And thanks for your help diagnosing and repairing this.

                I just drove it again last night for the first time since I got home and am still amazed by how much of a difference this fix has made.

                Since it has already been removed for the photos, the MLPS mounts on the two "shiny" studs in the photo, and surrounds the (rusty part of the) shaft. Although it is designed to simply slide over the end of the shaft, even once unbolted the rust made it impossible to remove cleanly. It had to be broken and pried off in multiple pieces. We then cleaned the shaft with a Dremel tool, as a wire brush proved insufficent. A new MLPS was installed, and the improvement in feel was dramatic. It was worth every penny.

                It is worth noting that my car is basically rust-free. I'm guessing that others may have it worse than I did.
                Mike Martin

                1997 Mark VIII LSC 5.0
                2001 Dodge Dakota

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                • #23
                  Well hello there. It only took 4 years since Tixer and M1g found the solution to the stiff shifter for me to actually do something about it. Now I know how Mike felt when he had it done. Like butta!

                  I went ahead and bought a new mlps on ebay ahead of time in case mine broke upon removal. I had trouble the first time around and felt like I was going to break something (other than the mlps) so I sprayed some lube on it and let it marinate for a couple days. Not willing to risk breaking something I brought it over to my buddy (Mechanic/Mark viii savior) sprayed it with the good stuff, used 2 long flat heads (4 &7 o'clock) on either side of the shaft and wiggled it off in one piece, but it was still junk. Cleaned the shaft the best he could and put lube (?) around it to help keep moisture out.







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                  • #24
                    The master at work.





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                    • #25
                      Nice job!

                      It took me a while to get to mine too, but it's an easy fix, worth the time.

                      My CE problem turned out to be the corroded shaft and MLPS too, not the cable like the red Mark.

                      You're right, at that point, the MLPS is junk anyway.

                      I did mine about 3 years ago though, great thread revival.

                      Bill
                      1994 Deep Jewel Green 183,142 miles
                      1997 White LSC 135k miles
                      1998 White Collectors Edition 175k
                      1994 Black (#2) 100k miles
                      1993 Deep Jewel Green Convertible

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by billcu View Post
                        Nice job!

                        It took me a while to get to mine too, but it's an easy fix, worth the time.

                        My CE problem turned out to be the corroded shaft and MLPS too, not the cable like the red Mark.

                        You're right, at that point, the MLPS is junk anyway.

                        I did mine about 3 years ago though, great thread revival.
                        Well worth the time. Just upset that I didn't do it sooner.

                        Doesn't hurt to bump it up for other members that might be experiencing similar issues thinking that a firm shifter is normal.

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