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  • #76
    Well went up north to work on assembly but forgot one part and some compound for the crank journals.

    So all we got done was making a custom bracket to mount the T block to my engine stand. Luckily I had allot of Mark viii parts with me to keep me busy. Doing a complete rebuild of a rear sub frame.

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    Eric
    -00 Honda Accord (The MPG'er)
    -97 Mark VIII Base (The Row'er)
    -95 Mark VIII LSC (The Go'er)
    -14 Model T touring (The Show'er)
    -Rebuilding the T

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    • #77
      Made some small progress last weekend.

      Installed the new cam (re-ground cam) and new babbeted bearings.

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      Assembled the rods and pistons. Old ones were steel and the new ones are aluminum. The wrist pins have an indent in them for the bolt to go through and secure the rod to the piston.

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      I thought it was cool that the new pistons have"Model T" cast into them.

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      Eric
      -00 Honda Accord (The MPG'er)
      -97 Mark VIII Base (The Row'er)
      -95 Mark VIII LSC (The Go'er)
      -14 Model T touring (The Show'er)
      -Rebuilding the T

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      • #78
        Installed the crank and plasti gauge the crank jurnals. Got the clearance down to .0001 but now it's a bit to tight. So have to lap the crank a little to make it just right.

        Once the crank is set up right the rest of the assembly will go together quickly


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        You can also see the new nylon gear which advances the cam by 7°.
        Eric
        -00 Honda Accord (The MPG'er)
        -97 Mark VIII Base (The Row'er)
        -95 Mark VIII LSC (The Go'er)
        -14 Model T touring (The Show'er)
        -Rebuilding the T

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        • #79
          Mmmm yeah, sexy safety wire. Giggty.

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          Eric
          -00 Honda Accord (The MPG'er)
          -97 Mark VIII Base (The Row'er)
          -95 Mark VIII LSC (The Go'er)
          -14 Model T touring (The Show'er)
          -Rebuilding the T

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          • #80
            I recently toured the USS Iowa, and all of the intercom handsets in one particular part of the ship had been disabled by means of safety wiring them to the base. It was all quite elegant, and made me think of the pride you take in your own work.

            The others were disabled with nylon cable ties..
            Mike Martin

            1997 Mark VIII LSC 5.0
            2001 Dodge Dakota

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            • #81
              i love shiny parts

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              • #82
                Update on this build? The 'T' on the road?
                95 Mark VIII, 145k - SOLD
                95 Taurus SHO, 267k
                02 Jaguar XJR-100, 60k
                87 BMW 535i, 94k

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                • #83
                  I know we were having issues getting the crank to seat properly in the babbet. I actually just sent an e-mail yesterday to the guy who has my motor to get a status update.

                  I'm currently at "work" and won’t be back till Febuaryish so I asked him if he could get the transmission ready for assembly and get the long block done. I just ran out of time last summer, life/work kept getting in the way. I will be making a good effort to finish it up before spring though. I sure do miss driving it.
                  Eric
                  -00 Honda Accord (The MPG'er)
                  -97 Mark VIII Base (The Row'er)
                  -95 Mark VIII LSC (The Go'er)
                  -14 Model T touring (The Show'er)
                  -Rebuilding the T

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                  • #84
                    Small update, getting back to this I talked the the engine builder and he got the crank all set up and has the clearances set up perfect. Going to head over there next weekend to get some more work done to it.
                    Eric
                    -00 Honda Accord (The MPG'er)
                    -97 Mark VIII Base (The Row'er)
                    -95 Mark VIII LSC (The Go'er)
                    -14 Model T touring (The Show'er)
                    -Rebuilding the T

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Lvnmarks View Post
                      Small update, getting back to this I talked the the engine builder and he got the crank all set up and has the clearances set up perfect. Going to head over there next weekend to get some more work done to it.
                      Well I lied, sorry it's been so long but work trips and increasing the human population has gotten in the way.

                      I wish I could say to motor was together and I was just waiting for warmer weather to install it but sadly it's sitting in my basement.

                      I'm still having issues with setting the clearances on the main bearings. When I plasti-gauge them I get my .002 clearance but when I torque them down I can't move my crank. We were able to put a sharpie on the main journals to check for high spots, found out the outer edge of 2/3 journals was causing our "to tight" issue but still giving a false indication of having the right clearance.

                      So I ordered more shims to try and increase the gap a thousandth or two, then rotate the crank to burn it in slightly. I just wonder what their working tolerances were in the factory back in 1914 and wondering if I'm being to picky.

                      My new shims should be here this week and hopefully get it set up soon. For now though, here is my oil pan. Got it straighten and powder coated. Since the transmission section of the motor isn't supported, the oil pan likes to warp from the heavy weight of the transmission pushing down on it.

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                      Here is a poor picture of the main journal with sharpie on it. Look close and you see the high spots worn in. I just need to find a balance shims to get it close enough. Every year you have to drop the pan cove a re-adjust the shims in the mains and rods as the engine wears in.

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                      Also got some more parts cleaned and ready for PC'ing. There are the valve covers and timing cover.

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                      Eric
                      -00 Honda Accord (The MPG'er)
                      -97 Mark VIII Base (The Row'er)
                      -95 Mark VIII LSC (The Go'er)
                      -14 Model T touring (The Show'er)
                      -Rebuilding the T

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                      • #86
                        Hey! Nice to see this back on the burner.
                        JP

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                        • #87
                          Best of luck on finishing the project!
                          Looks like its going to be a winner!
                          Don't rush it slow and steady wins the race.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Lvnmarks View Post
                            Well I lied, sorry it's been so long but work trips and increasing the human population has gotten in the way.

                            I wish I could say to motor was together and I was just waiting for warmer weather to install it but sadly it's sitting in my basement.

                            I'm still having issues with setting the clearances on the main bearings. When I plasti-gauge them I get my .002 clearance but when I torque them down I can't move my crank. We were able to put a sharpie on the main journals to check for high spots, found out the outer edge of 2/3 journals was causing our "to tight" issue but still giving a false indication of having the right clearance.

                            So I ordered more shims to try and increase the gap a thousandth or two, then rotate the crank to burn it in slightly. I just wonder what their working tolerances were in the factory back in 1914 and wondering if I'm being to picky.

                            My new shims should be here this week and hopefully get it set up soon. For now though, here is my oil pan. Got it straighten and powder coated.

                            Here is a poor picture of the main journal with sharpie on it. Look close and you see the high spots worn in. I just need to find a balance shims to get it close enough. Every year you have to drop the pan cove a re-adjust the shims in the mains and rods as the engine wears in.
                            I have been thinking about this and wonder about the radius on the crank were it meets the bearing, not sure if its clearing and should be checked with some machinist die. the crank seemed straight and I guess it could be checked with a dial indicator on the bearing surface. Hate to see you add too much shim

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                            • #89
                              Well I used a small piece of plastic with numbers embossed on it to get the engine assembled. Happy to report it's done and currently getting the transmission built up on it. No pictures this time but we're at least moving forward.
                              Eric
                              -00 Honda Accord (The MPG'er)
                              -97 Mark VIII Base (The Row'er)
                              -95 Mark VIII LSC (The Go'er)
                              -14 Model T touring (The Show'er)
                              -Rebuilding the T

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                              • #90
                                Sounds like progress!
                                JP

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