Almost at $4.00 a gallon for Premium

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I know most of you probably pay far less than we do out here in california. But I filled up yesterday at $3.75 a gallon at shell for premium. This is for top tier gas. El cheapo is around 3.60-3.69.

I guess the next big thing will be $5.00 a gallon, probably next year if this trend continues.
 
3.01 for 93 octane premium here just outside of houston
dunno bout the lower grades I never seen to pay attention to them but usually there is 10 cents difference between the three grades of fuel
super 3.01
mid grade 2.91
87 octane 2.81

This is a cool site, www.houstongasprices.com
I believe they have different sections for different regions/cities check it out.

They have a "price temperature" map that is nationwide that is pretty cool too
http://www.houstongasprices.com/price_by_county.aspx
 
OK guys, you are scaring me!! I'm getting ready for a X-country trip in my F250 diesel & 30' fiver. What's the cost of diesel in your area? I MIGHT get 11MPG pulling that monster!! Leaving June 11 or 12, Baltimore, Dollywood, Nashville, Memphis, - Branson, MO. - San Antonio - Grand Canyon, San Diego, Seattle, Banff Nat'l Park in BC, Canada, back to US and beat feeting towards home. Anyone wanna guess my fuel bill?
 
Every time it gets just above $2 here (in winter), it shoots right back up to $3:D
 
What's the cost of diesel in your area?

Even though I don't use diesel anymore, I've noticed diesel is almost universally $0.10 to $0.15 higher than premium in the east and mid-west(east of St. Louis). Sometimes when gas prices are dropping, the price gap may actually be more because it seems to take longer for diesel prices to come down.

BTW Bud, 11 mpg pulling that rig wouldn't be bad.
 
OK guys, you are scaring me!! I'm getting ready for a X-country trip in my F250 diesel & 30' fiver. What's the cost of diesel in your area? I MIGHT get 11MPG pulling that monster!! Leaving June 11 or 12, Baltimore, Dollywood, Nashville, Memphis, - Branson, MO. - San Antonio - Grand Canyon, San Diego, Seattle, Banff Nat'l Park in BC, Canada, back to US and beat feeting towards home. Anyone wanna guess my fuel bill?

Diesel hovers around 3.60 or so. I am guessing a $1800 gas/diesel bill.
 
Here in the houston area, Diesel is more expensive than super unleaded..
{go figure}
Pretty much every where I have seen in the south east texas area diesel is higher priced than premium.
 
Having some exprerience with the fuel market.. from my previous jobs.
A gas station orders X amount of fuel for delivery..
say 5000 gallons per delivery.

If they want to "add" diesel to their order they have to deduct how ever much diesel they want from one of their other grades of fuel.

If they order 500 gallons of diesel that reduces their overall order of other blends/grades to 4500 gallons.

Since 87 and 89 octane sell more than premium, they will decrease their order of premium unleaded by 500 gallons so they can get 500 gallons of diesel.

Here is the kicker..

since they deleted 500 gallons of PREMIUM fuel to get the 500 gallons of diesel they are now going to charge "the premium price" or MORE for the diesel.

It wouldn't make much sense for them to NOT GET 500 gallons of 3.00+ a gallon fuel and substitute 500 gallons of 2.50 product, because they will LOSE MONEY.

it totally sucks, but.. that's just how it is.
 
That makes no sense whatsoever.

The tankers are generally compartmentalized. As a matter of fact, around here, most diesel is delivered in a completely separate transport. Most tankers haul around 5000 gallons. Most large tandem fuel trucks haul 3000 gallons. If I recall the compartments are generally 1000 gallons with the smaller fuel delivery tandem wagons having two 1000 gallon compartments and two 500 gallon compartments.

The way I understand it, diesel fuel takes the least refinery steps, has much less geographical blends and yet costs more than premium?

And that's not even opening up the Pandora's Box of taxes.
 
Don't matter WHY it costs what it does...you and I aren't going to change it ! The only guess I got so far was 1800 bucks.....most agree?
 
That makes no sense whatsoever.
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Whether is makes sense or not really doesnt matter, but I remember vividly when I placed our diesel order that I had to deduct that amount from one of the other grades, since premium wasn't our top seller.. that was the grade the deduction was made from

This was when I worked in the industry, glad I'm out of that industry now
 
That makes no sense whatsoever.
Give me three examples of ANYTHING that makes sense with our government or our fuel situation and you will have made a valid point.

otherwise, it's just the same old bs.. that never makes sense.
nothing in regards to our government nor our fuel situation "makes sense".

back in the 80's texas pretty much closed down it's oil industry because the price per barrel fell below 15.00 a barrel and it was "deemed" not profitable to pump oil out of texas soil for 15.00 a barrel.

Now.. look at the barrel prices???

Are we pumping texas oil out of the ground now?
NOPE
they are pumping the gas out of the ground which makes recovering the oil a much more expensive proposition..because the gas is what forces the oil to the surface..

(ends rant and goes to lunch)
 
Profit up sales down. We are getting ripped off!

SAN RAMON, Calif. - Coming off three straight years of record profits, Chevron Corp. on Friday reported its earnings surged yet again to start 2007 as the oil company cashed out of a Netherlands venture and cashed in on lucrative refining margins that have contributed to high gasoline prices.

The 18 percent increase in Chevron's first-quarter profit delivered another reminder of the oil industry's moneymaking prowess while motorists dig deeper into their pocketbooks to fuel their cars. The economic disparity has renewed calls for a windfall tax on the industry to help raise money for alternative energy.

Chevron earned $4.7 billion, or $2.18 per share, during the first three months of the year, compared with net income of $4 billion, or $1.80 per share, at the same time last year.

The San Ramon-based company turned a higher profit despite a 12 percent decline in revenue, to $48.2 billion during the period.

The profit included a $700 million gain from Chevron's sale of a minority stake in a Netherlands refinery. If not for that one-time boost, Chevron said it would have earned $1.86 per share. That figure exceeded the average estimate of $1.67 per share among analysts surveyed by Thomson Financial.

Chevron became the fourth of world's five largest publicly traded oil companies to release their first-quarter earnings this week, following BP PLC, ConocoPhillips and Exxon Mobil Corp. Combined, the four companies earned $22.2 billion, up by 4 percent from last year.

Royal Dutch Shell PLC, Europe's largest oil company, is scheduled to report its first-quarter results May 3.

The latest quarter demonstrated that lower oil prices don't necessarily translate into lower profits for major oil companies.

While oil prices fell from the same time last year, refining margins were generally higher. The refining margin reflects the difference between what it costs to refine crude oil and what the company makes from selling the finished products, such as gasoline and jet fuel.

In the western United States, Chevron's first-quarter refining margin climbed to $26.69 per barrel, a 46 percent increase from the same time last year.

Those kinds of hefty refining margins eventually trickle down to the gasoline pump, where prices have soared beyond $3 per gallon in some parts of the country.

Excluding the Netherlands sale, Chevron's first-quarter profits rose 59 percent to $923 million in its "downstream" operations _ the company arm that refines oil and sells gasoline.

Chevron probably would have made even more money during the first quarter if not for maintenance work and a fire that shut down a major refinery in Richmond for most of the period.

The oil industry can more easily afford those kinds of operating hiccups with oil selling for as much as it has in recent years. Although they have fallen from last summer's peak of nearly $78 per barrel, oil prices remain above $60 per barrel _ a level that once seemed unsustainable, said Oppenheimer & Co. analyst Fadel Gheit.

If prices remain at these levels, "the oil industry won't be in the oil business much longer. It will be in the money business," Gheit said.

The favorable market conditions have enabled Chevron to earn $45 billion during the past three years, with its profit growing progressively higher each year. Chevron's stock price has increased by more than 80 percent over the same period, creating about $75 billion in shareholder wealth.

Chevron shares fell 18 cents to $78 in Friday afternoon trading on the New York Stock Exchange.


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