Using The System!!!

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Please tell me how this type of parisite sleeps at night!

There is this couple that live a few miles from us, down in Cody.
He is my age she a few years younger. They had lived and worked as anyone else for many years.
He cannot read or write, she has a thrid grade education. He was a heavy equipment mechanic, she a waitress. They lived in a small trailer, and worked hard, paid their bills, and were good folks.
Then one day the Union came to town and tried to
move in on the ranchers etc. This wont work here in Cody, so they pulled out. However the union rep had become friends with this fella, he to the rep fishing a couple of times and got an elk for him, etc.
About this time there was a job opening at the post office, and the rep talked this man into applying for it.
(now remember he cant read or write)
Of course he was unable to qualify for the job(even with an oral examation), and they hired they hired the best qualified.
Now here he comes with the old union rep, and they file an appeal and go all the way to the toip (whereever that is) with it. Yeah, you guessed it he was awarded the job.
Now is wife at the union rep's advice went to the county, state, and Uncle Sam, and through various grants, programs, etc, she received several fully paid schools, along with transportation costs and pin money. We also paid for about 20K wrth of dental work
"to make her more marketable". Well the funding finally run down to a trickle after about four and one half years, and she was asked to "go get a job".
The next day He faked a heart attack, got a Doctor up in Billings Montana to verify everything, and went on permanent disability with full medical, dental, and eye care for the rest of his life.
Oh just about 6 months prior to the heart attack, they got some kind of Govt no intrest loan for 100K, and bought a farm.
Now since she is unable to get anything else, she has a friend do the inhome nurse care for him for 6 months, and splits the check with her.
They now have a new home, a new pickup, boat, camper, and 2 4x4 atvs.
The next step was to buy everything they could think of in big ticket items.
Now they have more bills than anyone could every pay, so the consolate the bills, and file bankruptcy.
They Keep everything, because she files for a divorce, and they dont take her new Mercedes or his new pickup because each needs transportation.

Now she goes whining to everyone she can think of as he has supposanly thrown her out.
She getr welfare, food stamps, and free medi cal. She has several surgerys on her feet, andf is disabled for 3 more years, and gets money for that.

They still live together, do not pay bills, and do not work.

Is there a moral to this TRUE story? Im dammned if I know, But why did I work my butt of for almost 60 years??
 
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yea... but do you think they are truly happy? if you think about it they went trought alot of ##### to be lazy... i cant see them being happy whatsoever.
 
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welcome to Northwood, NH. I swear that is all that goes on in my town. One of the guys that works for my dad has three kids, a new ford F-250 and an unemployed, live at home wife with a new chrysler T&C minivan. They get the WICK program for discounted oil, the kids get free breakfast and lunch at school and seperately, they take both new cars to the local pantry so that they can BOTH stand in the free milk and Cheese line. The good part is, I know how much he makes. Oh yeah, and for some stupid reason my old man gives him 10%/90% medical, dental and vision care with a $75 dollar deductable...

I keep telling my dad that you could train a monkey (it doesn't even have to be an inteligent monkey) to do this guys job, and the monkey probably has more personality. My my dad thinks this guy is indispensible andeverything, where hes just being used......
 
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It's unfortunate, but I'll bet all of us knows of someone like the leeches described above. It has become the "American" way for a lot of people.
 
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I just pisses me off, i see how hard my dad has worked for what he was able to provide for our and the sacrifices that he/we had to make to do so. And theres people out there that just don't feel like working that are doing almost as well as we are. Its pretty disheartning...
 
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But why did I work my butt of for almost 60 years?
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Because you have HIGH morals, and answer to the man in the mirror! :)
 
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I know a guy down here who just purchased a home for $3 million on clearwater beach. He also purchased a very expensive new lexus. He decided to call himself a writer. He never intends to write a book. So long as he keep's calling himself a writer he will write off the house, the car, any gas that goes into the car and any food (which will be everything he eats) that he eat's while attempting to write this book. By the time he is done, he will have taken enough bennefit's to equal about 15 welfare recipient's. He will only be able to do it for 5 year's I think. He will then transfer the house to his wife who will then be the writer.

Why is it that we call a guy like this smart and look up to him, yet call somebody like your neighbor scum? Do you know the percent of our budget that goes to welfare? I think it is around 2 or 3%. The way people fight about it you would think it was 50% of our tax money.

I am not sticking up for these people. I agree that it is an abuse that must be stopped, but we need to look at the other area's where people are ripping off the system. Did you see what the top people of American Airlines did? Of all the bail out money, they kept millions for themselves and demanded that their employee's take a pay cut. My point is that there are abuses everywhere, not just the poor who everybody likes to point a finger at.
 
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I know a guy down here who just purchased a home for $3 million on clearwater beach. He also purchased a very expensive new lexus. He decided to call himself a writer. He never intends to write a book. So long as he keep's calling himself a writer he will write off the house, the car, any gas that goes into the car and any food (which will be everything he eats) that he eat's while attempting to write this book. By the time he is done, he will have taken enough bennefit's to equal about 15 welfare recipient's. He will only be able to do it for 5 year's I think. He will then transfer the house to his wife who will then be the writer.


Something odd about that anecdote... a "write off" only does you any good if you have income. Like when I was doing independant contracting, I went to San Fran over New Years, stayed on Fisherman's Wharf, etc... I spent an afternoon going over a web site proposal some company had given my friend's wife to do a site for the mall she managed, telling her what it meant, what Q's to ask etc. I charged her $100. I wrote off the entire trip's expenses as a sales and client entertainment, offsetting the income I earned at other clients. That's a write off. So if he got like a huge advance for the book, he could then claim all those expenses against that income. If he never produces a book, that's between him and the publisher, isn't it? And if a publisher then wants to sign his wife after that, that's their problem, isn't it? Where is he "taking benefits"???

I think the difference between these people and those that Jack described is that these people are allegedly ripping off some big corporation and the deadbeats Jack described are allegedly ripping off all of us.


you also said

we need to look at the other area's where people are ripping off the system. Did you see what the top people of American Airlines did? Of all the bail out money, they kept millions for themselves and demanded that their employee's take a pay cut. My point is that there are abuses everywhere, not just the poor who everybody likes to point a finger at

to which I say:
[h1]CAN I GET A "HELL YEAH!"[/H1]




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As far as I know, the book is a business venture on his own. Every year he will take a loss. There is no book in the work's. Just alot of golfing (business expense) and eating out (business expense) and dont forget the miles and gas are also tax deductable.
 
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As far as I know, the book is a business venture on his own. Every year he will take a loss. There is no book in the work's. Just alot of golfing (business expense) and eating out (business expense) and dont forget the miles and gas are also tax deductable.

I think the question is where his income is coming from to begin with. If you don't have any income, you don't pay taxes. Hence, there's not much point in taking deductions. So is he independently wealthy or what? If so, then he's a scumbag, and certainly not someone I'd "look up to". Not because he's wealthy, but because he's cheating the system, and the rest of us have to make up the difference. There's not a damned bit of difference between him and a professional welfare mother. They both end up costing us.
 
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A write off or a loss only means that you won't pay income taxes on that amount of money.

You can't live off of that because if your income is zero, you get just that, zero. Zero write off and zero losses to write off.

Also, if you use your house to do your work, the IRS does not allow you to deduct all the expenses for that home on your taxes. They may allow you to use a home office within that home as a deduction but not the entire home..

The Lexus? Same thing. Maybe part of the expense but no way are they going to allow 100% of the expense for that Lexus

And you better have receipts.

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