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budpytko

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Has anyone had any experance with the V10 engine for pulling power in the F250/350. I have been pulling my 30' Fifth wheel with a 92' diesel in which I installed the Banks Turbo back in 1994. It's now time to get a new truck. Diesel fuel costs, being what they are makes the new 6 liter cost probibitive (engine + fuel cost). The dealer is saying that the pulling power of the V10 equals that of the diesel. Anyone got any input here?


Bud Pytko
'97 LSC Silver Frost
'92 F250 Banks TurboDiesel Bimini Blue
'94 Prowler 5th Wheel
http://myfilelocker.comcast.net/charlespytko/Lincoln/BudPytko97LSC.JPG
 
RE: F250 V-10

I will tell you this from the stats.
...........V10.....Diesel
Power..362@4,750..325@3,300
Torque.457@3,250..570@2,000

They are both rated to tow up to 15000 pounds depending on if it is a 4x4 and what axle ratio you choose. But the diesel does have over 100 more pound feet of torque, quite a significant amount.
Oh I forgot to add something. Since you're doing 5th wheel towing. The numbers as follows
up to 16700 pounds for the V10 or up to 19200 pounds for the Diesel.
 
RE: F250 V-10

I've ordered the F250 with the V10. From what I've read, no one that has the V10 is dis-satisified with it. Seeing my 5th wheel is only about 8700 lbs wet, I doubt if I'll have a problem, but will let ya'll know after my first pull.

I hope that the louvered tailgate and fibreglass bedcover that I have on my '92 fits the 05. Both trucks are 8' beds. If so, all I'll have to do is paint match 'em. In summer I run with the louvered tailgate and no cover. Winter I use the cover and original tailgate.

Anyone need a '92 F250 diesel with 136,000 miles on it? No known problems.

P.S. I wouldn't have a motorhome. Way too much money and can't see having to drag a vehicle behind so one can go out and buy a loaf of bread without disconnecting from the campsite!


Bud Pytko
'97 LSC Silver Frost
'92 F250 Banks TurboDiesel Bimini Blue
'94 Prowler 5th Wheel
http://myfilelocker.comcast.net/charlespytko/Lincoln/BudPytko97LSC.JPG
 
RE: F250 V-10

Our boss won't let us buy any V10s for our fllet of pickups, Bud. Claims lack of resale value.

I hope you like it, I've heard good things as well but IMO you couldn't go wrong. My personal choice is the last of the inter-cooled 7.3L PowerStroke similar to my '02 F250 PSD. I'll reserve judgement on the smaller 6.0L PowerStrokes until we see how they run at 100K plus. ;)
 
RE: F250 V-10

Thanks for the input, John. It's supposed to be here today. They had to go to NY to get it. They are almost all gone (at least the 4 door ones with 8' bed). Next closest was in Detroit.

Guess I'll be letting you know how it pulls in a few weeks. Will have to do some stuff to it before I'll use it....Rhino Liner, get hitch switched etc.


Bud Pytko
'97 LSC Silver Frost
'92 F250 Banks TurboDiesel Bimini Blue
'94 Prowler 5th Wheel
http://myfilelocker.comcast.net/charlespytko/Lincoln/BudPytko97LSC.JPG
 
RE: F250 V-10

Good luck.

Diesel may be higher now, but it won't be forever. Also, at some point gas and diesel prices will likely go much higher, making biodiesel economically viable.

The diesel will get better gas mileage. At least better enough to offset fuel costs. The diesel will cost more initially, but you'll get it back in resale. Maintenance will be more on the diesel though. In the end, cost will probably be close to even, but i'd still get the diesel any day of the week.
 
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... Also, at some point gas and diesel prices will likely go much higher, making biodiesel economically viable.[/div]

In my travels through the mid-west, I have been running across more and more biodiesel on the market now. With diesel prices now, I'd say it is already economically viable in some areas.

I agree with most of your other points though. Around here, resale on 4X4 diesel pickups is a double whammy - any 4x4 fetches a premium and good used diesel vehicles are rare and in high demand as well. So when the case can be had for acquiring a HD pickup enough to justify the higher initial cost of the diesel, it is a done deal. I fear my next truck will be a gasser, so I'm gonna postpone any upgrade offers. Besides, with slightly over 100K on the odometer, I'm just now starting to enjoy the mods I've done to it. ;)

So, tell me Bud, is this one of them King Ranch trim packages? :9
 
RE: F250 V-10

Nope, it sure isn't!! Don't have that kind of bucks to throw out there. It's the XLT Trim with the FX4 package. It has the new trailer tow package with the built-in trailer brake controller.
Telescoping Outside Rear view mirrors, heated. 4.10 limited slip rear.
9800 # GVRW package also. Electronic shift-on-the-fly for the 4WD.

I haven't seen ONE station here in the east with bio-diesel yet. And without the gov't pushing it, it scares me. Just read in the paper tonight that it's costing more in energy costs to make a gallon of bio than the energy it has....so where will the savings be? Maybe my next truck the costs will be down enough to justify it.

Was told today they aren't sending the crew up to NY until either tomorrow or Wednesday now, but they've already switched what dealer now "owns" it, so it can't be sold out from under me like the last one. I got to go on a business trip to Norfolk tomorrow anyway...back either tomorrow night or Wednesday PM.

Bud Pytko
'97 LSC Silver Frost
'92 F250 Banks TurboDiesel Bimini Blue
'94 Prowler 5th Wheel
http://myfilelocker.comcast.net/charlespytko/Lincoln/BudPytko97LSC.JPG
 
RE: F250 V-10

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Just read in the paper tonight that it's costing more in energy costs to make a gallon of bio than the energy it has....so where will the savings be? [/div]

Quick google search turns up reports of B100 (100% biodiesel) for under $3 a gallon. Another quick search tells me biodiesel has 89% of the energy density of normal diesel. That tells me that it's not too far from being economically viable.

However, i have read that the new 6 liters don't like 100% biodiesel.

Personally, i want an '00 or an '01 powerstroke with a WVO conversion (waste vegetable oil).
 
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... Personally, i want an '00 or an '01 powerstroke with a WVO conversion (waste vegetable oil).
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Wow, does that mean I can fill up at McDonald's while getting breakfast? :7
 
RE: F250 V-10

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...Also, what's to stop you from installing a 250 gallon home heating oil tank at your home and having the local heating guy fill it?
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The DOT and the hefty fines/penalties for using off-road fuel in a road vehicle!

Back in the day, the primary economic advantage of a diesel pickup truck was the lower cost of fuel more than offset the higher engine and maintenance costs. Atop of that, it was common practice to burn off-road diesel at a much reduced cost(as much as 50% less). Somewhere along the line the voracious appetite for taxes by the government and the cost of fuel merged to more than just pennies per gallon to be concerned with and federal and state DOT regulations really tightened the noose.

We have had more than one of our pickup fleet stopped and tested for off-road fuel use.
 
RE: F250 V-10

State to state i think there might be some variation there. I know it's highly illegal to use off-road diesel in a commercial vehicle, but in a private on-road vehicle you might be okay, at least in some states.

When i said "waste vegetable oil" i wasn't talking about biodiesel, i was talking about used fryer oil. McDonalds usually has some contract or something to have it hauled away, but the mom and pop joints will give it away for free. You need a seperate fuel system though. You still have to start the vehicle on regular diesel, then a heater kicks on and heats the vegetable oil to a temperature where it has a low enough viscosity. Once it's up to temperature, you switch over to the vegetable oil. It is run through a series of filters so that you don't clog your injectors with a french fry, then runs into the injectors and you run your engine off of it. Before you shut it down, you run regular diesel for a minute or so to clean the injectors out. the vegetable oil has better lubricating properties than petroleum based diesel also.
 
RE: F250 V-10

I saw a show on the discovery channel a while back that was talking about alternet fuel sources. They showed the hydrogen powered cars and a truck that ran on used frying/vegetable oil. It was pretty cool the owner would go to this small food places and they just gave him their used oil for free.
 
RE: F250 V-10

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Gee, I think I need one even LESS now!! Looks like he shoulda put in 4 wheel!!! Isn't he on GRASS? If it's a pull contest, he lost!
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He's on a burnout pad for a burnout contest. :eek:

I dunno much about truck pulls, but I've hitched mine to a 12,000 pound skid mounted air compressor before and drug it around the josite.
 
RE: F250 V-10

Well, here's the end of this story.

I didn't buy a damn thing!! Stupid Ford dealer decided that I wasn't important enough to send someone up to NY to get the truck after telling me for 4 straight days I would have it "tomorrow". My last tomorrow was Thursday past. When I didn't hear from him, I made the decision that THAT dealer wasn't for me. When he DID call and tell me that the truck was here, I let him know that I had made other plans and I couldn't buy from someone who made it standard practice to lie to his "customers". All I needed was the truth. I could have lived with him telling me it wouldn't be available for almost any length of time, but when he said it would be here "tomorrow", I had people trying to buy my 92 and I didn't dare let it go until I knew when the new one would be here. I've been away from my phone for the past few days and I see where I've had a call or two from the Annapolis Ford dealer....ummm, wonder what he wants????

So, I'm gonna wait about 6 months or so and ORDER the one I want( But NOT from the Annapolis Ford place). This one WILL have the 6.0 diesel.


Bud Pytko
'97 LSC Silver Frost
'92 F250 Banks TurboDiesel Bimini Blue
'94 Prowler 5th Wheel
http://myfilelocker.comcast.net/charlespytko/Lincoln/BudPytko97LSC.JPG
 
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