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Am I allowed to say that on this board? ;-)

I drove past a small used car lot last Saturday evening and out front
was a 93 garnet/grey with really nice original paint. Of course I had
to stop and check it out. Interior had creasing and wear on the
drivers seat, but the other seats and carpet was very good. The front
mats were original and almost new condition. There was a set of
rubber mats in the trunk, so I think they were always covered.
Best part was the odometer read 74,6xx. Sticker was $3995.
I went back early Monday, before they opened, to make sure the
suspension was still up. Later, went back for a test drive.
It started/idled/ran perfect, tranny shifted smooth under light
throttle and even scratched 2nd at 3/4 throttle with new
Bridgestone tires on it. I checked the PCM code, it was W3Z2
(my original 93 is W3Z3) You can't beat a 93 for being "hot outa
the box". A sniff of the tranny dipstick showed Mercon V.
The down side is the car (from Wisconsin??) must have been spent
winters with the drivers side facing the sun. The rear 1/3 of
the rocker panel is rotted, strange, since the lower parts
every else is sound and the pass. side is very good.
Build date was 1/93 (other 93 is 4/93). Now I have a complete
set of replacement parts for the 23k mile garage queen.
Only major difference is my original 93 has snowflakes and this
one has painted 20 spoke directionals. As much as people gripe
about snowflakes, 20 spoke painted dr's are uber-ugly.
Talked the guy down to $3640, w/tax/lic/misc out the door for $3855.

Mel C.
93 garnet/grey X2
1 Garage Queen, 1 not so royal
 
Build date was 1/93

Mel C.
93 garnet/grey X2
1 Garage Queen, 1 not so royal

can you post the last characters in the VIN?

We checked Tiffs 93 {the grey ghost} and the vin was 640515
{the 4 may be incorrect)
but the vin indicated that she had the 515th mark produced.
 
Welcome to the club! :wink2-green

We checked Tiffs 93 {the grey ghost} and the vin was 640515
{the 4 may be incorrect)
but the vin indicated that she had the 515th mark produced.

Tommy, the way I understand it, the VIN production number does NOT necessarily correlate numerically in a model line but across model lines for whatever reasons.
 
Digit 11 is the assembly plant. It is always Y for the Mark VIII's, which were all made in the Wixom, Michigan assembly plant.

The last 6 digits are the production sequence number

maybe i understood it wrong, which wouldn't "be a first".
 
J:
That's why I noted it shifted soft at light throttle. I think a broken spring
shifts hard all the time, but it may depend on where it's broken. But your
right that it needs checking.

Tommy:
Tiff's must be very early.
The 1/93 is 676XXX (can't remember all of it),
the 4/93 is 7422XX (ditto).
Do I remember that the Ghost has a build date of 10/92?
That would mean a last quarter 92 production about 3000, and
a first quarter 93 production of 7000.
BTW - the 1/93 has a dimpled intake tube.

Mel C.
93 garnet/grey X2
Garage Queen w/ escort
 
Yea tiffs was a halloween car from 92.

Funny thing about those dimpled intakes...
People say "speculate" they are restrictive as from their appearance they "just have to be".

But for the record..Every car that has beaten my car.. HAD the dimpled intake
*shruggs*
Tiffs near stock 93 would run within .02-03 of my 95 w/373's and exhaust.
It was embarrassing..HAHA

Welcome to CLUB XVI!
 
That has the makings of a good experiment!
I have 4 smooth intake tubes in different levels of modification (as a
result of the Vortech project).
1 totally stock
1 w/ pipe cap in place of large resonator
1 w/ pipe cap and cut off/plugged small resonator
1 w/ everything cut off and wrapped w/ kevlar
I could do some swapping and G-Tech the results.
All kidding aside this dimple Mark does seem quicker than I remember
the other one being, when it was stock.
BUT, I had never made a 1/4 mile pass back then either.

Mel C.
93 garnet/grey X2
Garage Queen w/ escort

PS - Wouldn't that be strange if you could prove those dimpled tubes were better.
Everyone would looking for the ones they pitched in the dump.
 
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PS - Wouldn't that be strange if you could prove those dimpled tubes were better.
Everyone would looking for the ones they pitched in the dump.

Lmao....that would be great! Everyone is glueing back on their silencers, haha.

I posted about my comment above, but apparently it didn't post. I basically said....

"Sounds like you got it handled, and I did notice you added that small detail about the part throttle smooth shift. Figured I'd point it out just in case you were unfamiliar". :)
 
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