Kale Mod version 1.3 - cheaper and easier

sleeper

Former LOD President
http://www.lincolnsclub.org/users/sleeper/solenoid_mod_1.3.jpg

Okay, there are two major changes from Kale's version (1.2).

First of all, i'm cutting the air-ride off using pin 11 instead of pin 21. On my car at least, the air ride still functions normally with pin 21 cut. Pin 11 is the air-ride switch input. This circuit connects to the message sensor and the air ride switch. When the air-ride switch is on, the pin is grounded. When the switch is off, it is open, the message center sees no ground and displays "air ride switch off" and the air-ride computer doesn't operate the suspension. If you cut this wire at the computer, the message center still sees ground and does not display a message, and the computer doesn't see ground, and doesn't function to control the suspension.

The other major change is using a DPST (dual pole, single throw) switch instead of a dual-coil latching relay. This eliminates a few diodes and some unnecessary wiring from the system, and will be cheaper to implement by about $20. The switch's operation is simple. When the switch is on, both pins (11 and 12) are connected normally, and the system functions in "automatic" mode, aka as if it were completely stock. If you throw that switch, you shut off the air ride, and shut off the message center input, and switch the system over to manual control. This can be done with the car running, driving down the road, parked, whenever. You will get no error message, and no "air ride switch off" message. When you switch it back to automatic mode, it is as if nothing happened. If you open and close the door, or do something else that would normally cause the computer to re-evaluate the height sensor inputs, the car returns to normal ride height.

I also added text to clarify what to do with the wires, whether to cut or to splice into them.

Keep in mind that if you alter the stance of the car side to side, make it lean, or try to attempt "three wheel motion", the car will not return to being completely level on the first try after returning it to automatic mode. That is because it is a three channel system, and it won't be able to tell if the right rear wheel is at the proper height or not. After a few cycles, it should return to normal, though.

When i tried to install Kale's version, the relay i bought would not function. Perhaps i bought a 110 volt relay, or maybe it's defective, either way, it didn't work. So i thought for a few minutes and decided that a switch would be the easier way to go. This may not be the best solution if you plan to use an output from an alarm system to control your suspension, though.
 
RE: Kale Mod version 1.3 - cheaper and easier

i am wondering if my relay isnt bad as well..
you got yours from the same place as me right?
mine works in manual mode just fine, but when i switch it to "auto" mode it doesnt let the computer take back control...

only thing i would like to see in your diagram is the pins on the realy.. as in 85, 86, 87, 30..

but all in all very good idea! i might redo my setup to include that..


question.. if you have it in manual mode, and do something to make the car re-evaluate its height, does it try and correct the car, or just in auto mode?
 
RE: Kale Mod version 1.3 - cheaper and easier

question.. if you have it in manual mode, and do something to make the car re-evaluate its height, does it try and correct the car, or just in auto mode?

If you have it in manual mode, it bypasses the computer and is like having the air ride switch off, therefore, no re-evaluations. Just in auto-mode.
 
RE: Kale Mod version 1.3 - cheaper and easier

Ok silly question, this is so that you can use a switch inside the car to manually raise and lower your Mark? Not sure I have a need to do this but I love messing with stuff. ;)
 
RE: Kale Mod version 1.3 - cheaper and easier

Chad - Yes, it is.

Another person has mentioned he had to cut pin #11. I'm starting to think my info is screwy. I know that it would not work if one or the other were cut, and I documented that it was pin 21. One would give an error. I'll have to double check that arrangement and add it to the page. Either should work to kill power, but only one will allow you to bring the system back online. There might be something different about the wiring of my car as well, something I may have overlooked.

There are many differnt options you have when wiring this type of system. You don't need to use your ignition switch as a reset switch, you don't need a reset switch at all, you can use different relays, add a solenoid, etc. Creating versions 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, etc.. are all up to you.

I've gone with the fast bag set-up and I believe it is the only way to go if you intend to keep your car.

Kale
 
RE: Kale Mod version 1.3 - cheaper and easier

Ok, where do I start looking for the fast-bag stuff :)
 
RE: Kale Mod version 1.3 - cheaper and easier

Open up any magazine, esp. Street Trucks, Truckin, Lowrider, etc...

Kale
 
RE: Kale Mod version 1.3 - cheaper and easier

sleeper..
which pins did you connect what to on the dpst relay you added?
 
RE: Kale Mod version 1.3 - cheaper and easier

Thats not a relay, it's a switch. I just cut the wires coming from pins 11 and 12, and put the switch in line. A DPST switch is basically just two regular switches in one.
 
RE: Kale Mod version 1.3 - cheaper and easier

ohhhhhhhhhhh!
i get it now.. next time i should look closer and think too :D

thanks!
 
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