Why Marriage Has Become a Raw Deal for Men
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Steve Zipoff 1
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I think this might be his knee-jerk reaction to a poor decision on his part to get married. He was probably reasonably well off and his ex took everything except the bills.
I think this might be his knee-jerk reaction to a poor decision on his part to get married. He was probably reasonably well off and his ex took everything except the bills.
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There are truths in the article, but it sounds like the author is disgruntled over a bad experience he had.
Life is not fair. Just because you spent years and a lot of money to get a good eduction does not assure you that you will get a good job or get rich. Working deligently at your job does not assure you that you will keep your job. You work hard for your money but a large percentage goes towards income and sales taxes.
This is life. Try to make the best of it and hope that you have a little luck on your side.
I know that there are many downsides to marriage, but I still want to get married. The goal is to build a good life together and that is enough for me.
Alexander
President
Lincolns of Distinction
There are truths in the article, but it sounds like the author is disgruntled over a bad experience he had.
Life is not fair. Just because you spent years and a lot of money to get a good eduction does not assure you that you will get a good job or get rich. Working deligently at your job does not assure you that you will keep your job. You work hard for your money but a large percentage goes towards income and sales taxes.
This is life. Try to make the best of it and hope that you have a little luck on your side.
I know that there are many downsides to marriage, but I still want to get married. The goal is to build a good life together and that is enough for me.
Alexander
President
Lincolns of Distinction
RE: Why Marriage Has Become a Raw Deal for Men
SEXIST, stereotyped, generalized exageration. (None of the complaints he mentioned anywhere near fit what I want or how I think...) He certainly does sound bitter. Maybe he should have picked a woman who shared some common interests and similar goals and desires?
SEXIST, stereotyped, generalized exageration. (None of the complaints he mentioned anywhere near fit what I want or how I think...) He certainly does sound bitter. Maybe he should have picked a woman who shared some common interests and similar goals and desires?
RE: Why Marriage Has Become a Raw Deal for Men
My perspective on this as a Christian man: The divorce rate for married couples who regularly attend church is 25%. This drops to 10% if they do Bible study together and drops to less than 1% if they pray together. My girlfriend and I do all these.
In light of this, marriage becomes a less risky venture for me.
My perspective on this as a Christian man: The divorce rate for married couples who regularly attend church is 25%. This drops to 10% if they do Bible study together and drops to less than 1% if they pray together. My girlfriend and I do all these.
In light of this, marriage becomes a less risky venture for me.
GRAND_LS 400
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That's one of the funniest things you've ever posted, Moe!I see no author name on it, was he too chicken to link his name to that trash?
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I actually emailed him, and he said he can’t write his name, because he would be considered an #### and in risk of losing his job for not being politically correct.
But do you want to know what’s interesting? Read the responses to threads like these in the Mercedes Benz/Lexus/BMW forums and the members can really relate to it. Maybe they are more susceptible targets to good diggers?
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That's one of the funniest things you've ever posted, Moe!I see no author name on it, was he too chicken to link his name to that trash?
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I actually emailed him, and he said he can’t write his name, because he would be considered an #### and in risk of losing his job for not being politically correct.
But do you want to know what’s interesting? Read the responses to threads like these in the Mercedes Benz/Lexus/BMW forums and the members can really relate to it. Maybe they are more susceptible targets to good diggers?
sleeper
Former LOD President
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I actually emailed him, and he said he can’t write his name, because he would be considered an #### and in risk of losing his job for not being politically correct.But do you want to know what’s interesting? Read the responses to threads like these in the Mercedes Benz/Lexus/BMW forums and the members can really relate to it. Maybe they are more susceptible targets to good diggers?
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I'm sure there are a lot of people that can identify with that. Some people (90+% of them men) get totally, royally f*d when it comes time for divorce. Happened to my dad. Cost a lot of money and the divorce took over a year, despite the fact that they were only married about 5 years (my dad's second wife, not my mom).
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I actually emailed him, and he said he can’t write his name, because he would be considered an #### and in risk of losing his job for not being politically correct.But do you want to know what’s interesting? Read the responses to threads like these in the Mercedes Benz/Lexus/BMW forums and the members can really relate to it. Maybe they are more susceptible targets to good diggers?
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I'm sure there are a lot of people that can identify with that. Some people (90+% of them men) get totally, royally f*d when it comes time for divorce. Happened to my dad. Cost a lot of money and the divorce took over a year, despite the fact that they were only married about 5 years (my dad's second wife, not my mom).
RE: Why Marriage Has Become a Raw Deal for Men
Pre-Nuptial...the magic work. Most women ARE gold diggers. The attractiveness of your wife is directly proportional to how much money you make. Women are venomous snakes, and should be treated like they can inflict a deadly bite. Men, do yourself a favor and listen to Tom Leykis as often as you can. I have the Leykis 101 Rules on MP3 if anyone can upload for me.
Pre-Nuptial...the magic work. Most women ARE gold diggers. The attractiveness of your wife is directly proportional to how much money you make. Women are venomous snakes, and should be treated like they can inflict a deadly bite. Men, do yourself a favor and listen to Tom Leykis as often as you can. I have the Leykis 101 Rules on MP3 if anyone can upload for me.
magic_marker
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Ah, well, my wife and I must be one of the exceptions to the "rule." We'll have been married 6 years this coming January. No matter how busy we are, or how rough the going gets, we always seem to come through largely unscathed and remain happily together. I'm really thankful to have her in my life.
Marriage is hard work - don't let anyone tell you otherwise. But a working marriage is a wonderful thing, and not all marriages end in ruin. <knock on wood!>
Ah, well, my wife and I must be one of the exceptions to the "rule." We'll have been married 6 years this coming January. No matter how busy we are, or how rough the going gets, we always seem to come through largely unscathed and remain happily together. I'm really thankful to have her in my life.
Marriage is hard work - don't let anyone tell you otherwise. But a working marriage is a wonderful thing, and not all marriages end in ruin. <knock on wood!>
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[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]That's one of the funniest things you've ever posted, Moe!I see no author name on it, was he too chicken to link his name to that trash? [/div]I actually emailed him, and he said he can’t write his name, because he would be considered an #### and in risk of losing his job for not being politically correct.
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I think the guy has a paranoid disorder of some sort. He should get some help. Maybe that's why she left him.
How on earth could his employer find out what he writes on the internet, and even if they did, how would they be able to use that to fire him?
Some of my favorite quotes:
"Except in professional sports and presidential elections, women are given the same educational and professional career opportunities as men." (ha ha, since when? Where's the stats on this?)
Oh wait, here we go - 2nd sentence:
"Also, contrary to feminist propaganda, women do indeed get paid the same salary as men, given they are willing to work the same types of jobs as men, and work as many hours as their male counterpart." (ha ha since when? Gimme stats. As far as I know engineers are one of the few jobs where women make as much as men).
Then: "For starters, men are forced (yes, forced) to spend their hard earned savings on a diamond ring." (since when? What about women who are FORCED, YES FORCED - to buy rings for their husbands?)
"To add insult to injury, (a recurring theme in marriage, as you will see), the man is now locked into a lifetime of insurance payments for this grossly overpriced jewelry." (ummmm, yeah, I think we pay about $48 per YEAR for all my jewelry to be covered, and gosh, it comes out of our JOINT checking account, since we are, after all, married)
"Immediately after buying a ring, the man may be rewarded with demands of financing all or part of a lavish wedding...." (since when? I thought the bride's parents cover this expense, and the man actually makes out from all the wedding gifts)
"You knew you wanted kids even before you met me, and you should have planned ahead." (I thought it takes two to have a kid?)
Now here's where it gets interesting:
"If the husband makes enough to support both of them, he would be hard pressed to make an argument to preserve equality, and have her continue working as he does. " (Now, up above, women supposedly make as much as men, so how in the world does this hold up?)
" It is easy to exaggerate the labors of daily housework. Yet, how long does it take to throw clothes into the wash, and remove them later?" (OK, I don't want this guy doing MY laundry!)
Oh, that's enough laughs for now.
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[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]That's one of the funniest things you've ever posted, Moe!I see no author name on it, was he too chicken to link his name to that trash? [/div]I actually emailed him, and he said he can’t write his name, because he would be considered an #### and in risk of losing his job for not being politically correct.
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I think the guy has a paranoid disorder of some sort. He should get some help. Maybe that's why she left him.
How on earth could his employer find out what he writes on the internet, and even if they did, how would they be able to use that to fire him?
Some of my favorite quotes:
"Except in professional sports and presidential elections, women are given the same educational and professional career opportunities as men." (ha ha, since when? Where's the stats on this?)
Oh wait, here we go - 2nd sentence:
"Also, contrary to feminist propaganda, women do indeed get paid the same salary as men, given they are willing to work the same types of jobs as men, and work as many hours as their male counterpart." (ha ha since when? Gimme stats. As far as I know engineers are one of the few jobs where women make as much as men).
Then: "For starters, men are forced (yes, forced) to spend their hard earned savings on a diamond ring." (since when? What about women who are FORCED, YES FORCED - to buy rings for their husbands?)
"To add insult to injury, (a recurring theme in marriage, as you will see), the man is now locked into a lifetime of insurance payments for this grossly overpriced jewelry." (ummmm, yeah, I think we pay about $48 per YEAR for all my jewelry to be covered, and gosh, it comes out of our JOINT checking account, since we are, after all, married)
"Immediately after buying a ring, the man may be rewarded with demands of financing all or part of a lavish wedding...." (since when? I thought the bride's parents cover this expense, and the man actually makes out from all the wedding gifts)
"You knew you wanted kids even before you met me, and you should have planned ahead." (I thought it takes two to have a kid?)
Now here's where it gets interesting:
"If the husband makes enough to support both of them, he would be hard pressed to make an argument to preserve equality, and have her continue working as he does. " (Now, up above, women supposedly make as much as men, so how in the world does this hold up?)
" It is easy to exaggerate the labors of daily housework. Yet, how long does it take to throw clothes into the wash, and remove them later?" (OK, I don't want this guy doing MY laundry!)
Oh, that's enough laughs for now.
GRAND_LS 400
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[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong][div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]That's one of the funniest things you've ever posted, Moe!I see no author name on it, was he too chicken to link his name to that trash? [/div]I actually emailed him, and he said he can’t write his name, because he would be considered an #### and in risk of losing his job for not being politically correct.[/div]I think the guy has a paranoid disorder of some sort. He should get some help. Maybe that's why she left him.
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I'm sure he is expecting you to say that
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[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong][div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]That's one of the funniest things you've ever posted, Moe!I see no author name on it, was he too chicken to link his name to that trash? [/div]I actually emailed him, and he said he can’t write his name, because he would be considered an #### and in risk of losing his job for not being politically correct.[/div]I think the guy has a paranoid disorder of some sort. He should get some help. Maybe that's why she left him.
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I'm sure he is expecting you to say that
Pauls dropped 8
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the women make the same as i do where i work and im no engineer. the rings women buy arent nearly as extravegant as the bride's. and scott, 6 years is a drop in the bucket. youll get worn down like the other 50% of marriages. good luck though.
the women make the same as i do where i work and im no engineer. the rings women buy arent nearly as extravegant as the bride's. and scott, 6 years is a drop in the bucket. youll get worn down like the other 50% of marriages. good luck though.
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I'm approaching 46 years of wedded bliss. My wife and I must have agreed with the author about spending lots of $$ on rings and receptions and took all that $$ and bought our first home. I was 23 and she was 20 then and we were newlyweds with our own home.
Over the years we've done our share of bickering (both Taurus’s) but when I think what life would be like if we never married, I get teary eyed. How sad life would be.
My wife was a stay at home wife & mother and after my son was old enough, went out and got a job to help buy "stuff". I retired 11 years ago and my wife is still working. Both decisions were mutual.
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I'm approaching 46 years of wedded bliss. My wife and I must have agreed with the author about spending lots of $$ on rings and receptions and took all that $$ and bought our first home. I was 23 and she was 20 then and we were newlyweds with our own home.
Over the years we've done our share of bickering (both Taurus’s) but when I think what life would be like if we never married, I get teary eyed. How sad life would be.
My wife was a stay at home wife & mother and after my son was old enough, went out and got a job to help buy "stuff". I retired 11 years ago and my wife is still working. Both decisions were mutual.
http://members.tccoa.com/lastmrk/Images/lastmrk.jpg
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I'm approaching 46 years of wedded bliss. My wife and I must have agreed with the author about spending lots of $$ on rings and receptions and took all that $$ and bought our first home. I was 23 and she was 20 then and we were newlyweds with our own home.Over the years we've done our share of bickering (both Taurus’s) but when I think what life would be like if we never married, I get teary eyed. How sad life would be.My wife was a stay at home wife & mother and after my son was old enough, went out and got a job to help buy "stuff". I retired 11 years ago and my wife is still working. Both decisions were mutual.http://members.tccoa.com/lastmrk/Images/lastmrk.jpg
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Way to go man http://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif
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I'm approaching 46 years of wedded bliss. My wife and I must have agreed with the author about spending lots of $$ on rings and receptions and took all that $$ and bought our first home. I was 23 and she was 20 then and we were newlyweds with our own home.
Over the years we've done our share of bickering (both Taurus’s) but when I think what life would be like if we never married, I get teary eyed. How sad life would be.My wife was a stay at home wife & mother and after my son was old enough, went out and got a job to help buy "stuff". I retired 11 years ago and my wife is still working. Both decisions were mutual.http://members.tccoa.com/lastmrk/Images/lastmrk.jpg[/div]
Way to go man http://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif
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OK, I'll throw myself on the sword. I think he makes some valid points. I saw it with my parents. I loved my mother deeply, but there were many things similar to this that she did to my father. And before anybody makes assumptions, my parents were married for 36 years till my mother died. For many years my father begged her to get out of the house and work. She used all of the same excuses i.e. out of the market too long and such. I dont think that was the case. I think she just enjoyed not working. Then you go out there and listen to women like Dr. Laura and she encourages women to quit working. Even if they promised their husbands that they would not.
Of all of my friends and family, every one of them has demanded that I not get married. I think part of it is in hopes that I wont procreate. The other part is the realization that marriage is far from the crap they show on TV. Every one of them regret it. Every one of them tell me that they would not have done it if they knew then what they know now.
On a totally different note, I wonder where this guy lives. When I lived in the mid-west I had many meaningful relationships that went very well. The girls and I usually broke of on very good terms. Since moving to Florida I have found that the women are very shallow. Whats most amazing about it is that they think their attitudes are normal. They have no shame in their shallow morality. I have found that it is a totally different culture down here. Whats more funny is that since I have noticed it I can spot women who are from the midwest pretty quickly. I go to a bar and meet 5 women. If one of them is from the midwest I will not only spot them quickly, I will have already found myself gravitating towards them before realizing it.
If quizzes are quizzical, what are tests?
OK, I'll throw myself on the sword. I think he makes some valid points. I saw it with my parents. I loved my mother deeply, but there were many things similar to this that she did to my father. And before anybody makes assumptions, my parents were married for 36 years till my mother died. For many years my father begged her to get out of the house and work. She used all of the same excuses i.e. out of the market too long and such. I dont think that was the case. I think she just enjoyed not working. Then you go out there and listen to women like Dr. Laura and she encourages women to quit working. Even if they promised their husbands that they would not.
Of all of my friends and family, every one of them has demanded that I not get married. I think part of it is in hopes that I wont procreate. The other part is the realization that marriage is far from the crap they show on TV. Every one of them regret it. Every one of them tell me that they would not have done it if they knew then what they know now.
On a totally different note, I wonder where this guy lives. When I lived in the mid-west I had many meaningful relationships that went very well. The girls and I usually broke of on very good terms. Since moving to Florida I have found that the women are very shallow. Whats most amazing about it is that they think their attitudes are normal. They have no shame in their shallow morality. I have found that it is a totally different culture down here. Whats more funny is that since I have noticed it I can spot women who are from the midwest pretty quickly. I go to a bar and meet 5 women. If one of them is from the midwest I will not only spot them quickly, I will have already found myself gravitating towards them before realizing it.
If quizzes are quizzical, what are tests?