Bad strut rod bushings?

It's a car that Jeremi is going to do some suspension repairs on.

We had to replace the front strut rod bushings just to make it safe enough to drive to Jeremi's house.

It's hard to see on the video but those wheels are chrome snowflakes. I've always loved those wheels.
 
Make jokes all you want Bill. But the joke will be on you when your moog bushings will do exactly the same.

Let this video be a warning to anyone who is using the aftermarket strut rod bushings on their cars. The front washer blew all the way thru the bushing, and it was the only thing stopping that wheel from going deep into the fender. Believe it or not, they drove it like that :eek: :confused:
 
ha ha ha wow i have changed many of those for people at my shop on these cars but i have yet to see some as awesome as those lol. i had to watch the video twice, i didnt see the tire jerkin back and forth the first time. that was sweet!
 
Mad1stGen said:
Make jokes all you want Bill. But the joke will be on you when your moog bushings will do exactly the same.

Let this video be a warning to anyone who is using the aftermarket strut rod bushings on their cars. The front washer blew all the way thru the bushing, and it was the only thing stopping that wheel from going deep into the fender. Believe it or not, they drove it like that :eek: :confused:
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You're right there Jeremi.

You remeber that brake judder that we noticed in my green Mark the other day? Today I took my brakes apart and measured the rotor runout with my dial indicator. It wasn't that bad, but I had to clean the passenger side rotor and hub to get it into spec. I cleaned the rotors and pads too, but I haven't tested it at expressway speeds yet.

I've got those crappy aftermarket bushings on this car and they looked loose. I know that bad bushings can contribute to brake judder by not holding the lower control arm in place.

I'll be replacing them soon.:D
 
That looked like that old dance "Shimmey Shimmey Coa-Butt, Shimmey Shimmey Butt') Any way you guys do good work up there and glad to hear
you're still around. I thought Jeremi would be more into tube bending and Fab based on air flow cross sectional computations, and frontal shock wave projections on elevated mass airflow for the purposes of achieving a significant rise in intake air pressures supplied by the escape of high speed exhausts. LOL
 
Roadboss said:
I thought Jeremi would be more into tube bending and Fab based on air flow cross sectional computations, and frontal shock wave projections on elevated mass airflow for the purposes of achieving a significant rise in intake air pressures supplied by the escape of high speed exhausts. LOL
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That was the plan for this winter. But lack of interest in the beast put everything on hold. I sold the 96 LSC this week, so who knows what's next.

This car will be like new when the owner gets it back later this week.
 
My bushings (and the ones on this car) are the Moog blue thermoplastic junk.

I think that Jeremi still has the failed/destroyed bushing. I'll take a photo of it when I get back there.

Mine don't look that bad yet, but I don't trust them.
 
The reason I ask is that I replaced mine this summer. I avoided the blue ones because of all the complaints. I did buy a different set of black rubber Moog bushings from Rockauto. The material was more like the factory replacements, but the hardware and design was probably the same as the thermoplastic bushings. When I change Sharon's I am going to go with Ford bushings. The hardware is more heavy duty and appears better designed.

Anyone have a bad experience with the rubber Moogs?
 
Bill at supercoupe sells black poly bushings as part of a complete front end kit, which is better than thermoplastic and rubber. Not sure if he would sell them separately though.
 
Yea, they Moogs suck, my 95 has them and I'm going to replace them soon. I haven't had the failure like that car in the video but they are WAY too hard. They make the whole front end sound horrible because they don't absorb any energy.
 
I have 60,000 on the Blue Moogs and so far so good, I have no complaints. These are on my Black Darth V8der. The Whiner is going to get a new Front suspension (have parts lying here) and included are the Blue Moogs again.
 
Roadboss said:
I have 60,000 on the Blue Moogs and so far so good, I have no complaints. These are on my Black Darth V8der. The Whiner is going to get a new Front suspension (have parts lying here) and included are the Blue Moogs again.
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I've got the blue MOOGS also. 25K miles, no problems...yet.

Check the steel sleeves for proper length prior to install. The faulty kits had sleeves that were 1/4-1/2" too long. The rods will end up WAY too loose, or you'll crush the sleeve (it's crimped) when you tighten it down with an impact wrench.

I had to grind off about 1/4" from the sleeves I got.

If I had to do it again, I'd go poly.
 
Even the shorter sleeves give in a little after a while. I've been cutting the sleeves and bushings even shorter to extend their service time, but nothing beats the OEM bushings. Rich had problems with poly bushings in his kit, and actually went back to selling OEM strut rod bushings as part of that kit. Poly is not the answer to everything either.
 
Rich's words:
"I tested the Moog (blue) thermo plastic bushings many years ago before the polyurethane bushings you see in the FSK100. The thermo plastic would deform and crack under my tests. The rear strut rod bushings in the MN12 FSK100 kit are Ford OEM and the reason is they are not really a solid rubber bushing. OEM design is a saucer shaped steel bushing covered in a thin coating of rubber. The Moog (blue) rear strut rod bushings cracked and failed in my tests again. "

He wa using poly after that, and then finally decided to use OEM strut rod bushings at the arm.
 
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