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Dominus
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Anybody running 17 x 9 wheels on the front end of the Mark VIII? What tires? Any rubbing, etc? Thanks.
RE: 17 x 9s on the front of a Mark VIII?
Yea, no rubbing although it's close. Some people have experienced rubbing but I think it's due to tolerances in the car's suspension adding up and possibly a tolerance in the wheel offset machining. Mine have a 36mm offset, it leaves about an 1/8 clearance. Be aware, some do have running issues, although many do not.
Yea, no rubbing although it's close. Some people have experienced rubbing but I think it's due to tolerances in the car's suspension adding up and possibly a tolerance in the wheel offset machining. Mine have a 36mm offset, it leaves about an 1/8 clearance. Be aware, some do have running issues, although many do not.
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Dominus
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RE: 17 x 9s on the front of a Mark VIII?
I'll give it a shot. If it rubs, I'll space it out a bit.
I'll give it a shot. If it rubs, I'll space it out a bit.
RE: 17 x 9s on the front of a Mark VIII?
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I run 18x9s +30mm ... no rubbing up front what-so-ever.
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Would you say that any Mark VIII can run that size with no issues? I am very interested in that wheel size. Does the offset have to be exactly 30mm? How much space on both sides of the tire, front and back?
Thanks.
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I run 18x9s +30mm ... no rubbing up front what-so-ever.
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Would you say that any Mark VIII can run that size with no issues? I am very interested in that wheel size. Does the offset have to be exactly 30mm? How much space on both sides of the tire, front and back?
Thanks.
Mad1stGen
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RE: 17 x 9s on the front of a Mark VIII?
Actually any mark will be able to run 18x9 36mm offset without issues.
The only rubbing was experienced by people with lug-centric (blah....) 17x9 +36mm offset.
Remember that with 18" wheels you move 1/2" out where the spindle curves up and toward the car.
There is a great option now to get the 4.50 hub swap done and use the new wheels made for 05-06 Mustangs. Most of them come with +36mmm offsets and are priced a lot cheaper than the lincoln specific wheels. Plus you get so many other wheel options like 17x10 with +42mm offset and such.
Consider running wider than 245 tire on a 9" rim. 245 bulges too much and doesn't look right, not even mentioning that it doesn't protect the wheel's outer lip.
IMHO best combo would be 255/45/17 (or 255/45/18) up front and 285/40/17 (or 285/40/18) in the back with +36 offset all around. Both sizes are very close to the stock tire in diameter and will affect your speedo by a minimal amount if any at all.
Actually any mark will be able to run 18x9 36mm offset without issues.
The only rubbing was experienced by people with lug-centric (blah....) 17x9 +36mm offset.
Remember that with 18" wheels you move 1/2" out where the spindle curves up and toward the car.
There is a great option now to get the 4.50 hub swap done and use the new wheels made for 05-06 Mustangs. Most of them come with +36mmm offsets and are priced a lot cheaper than the lincoln specific wheels. Plus you get so many other wheel options like 17x10 with +42mm offset and such.
Consider running wider than 245 tire on a 9" rim. 245 bulges too much and doesn't look right, not even mentioning that it doesn't protect the wheel's outer lip.
IMHO best combo would be 255/45/17 (or 255/45/18) up front and 285/40/17 (or 285/40/18) in the back with +36 offset all around. Both sizes are very close to the stock tire in diameter and will affect your speedo by a minimal amount if any at all.
RE: 17 x 9s on the front of a Mark VIII?
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Actually any mark will be able to run 18x9 36mm offset without issues.The only rubbing was experienced by people with lug-centric (blah....) 17x9 +36mm offset. Remember that with 18" wheels you move 1/2" out where the spindle curves up and toward the car. There is a great option now to get the 4.50 hub swap done and use the new wheels made for 05-06 Mustangs. Most of them come with +36mmm offsets and are priced a lot cheaper than the lincoln specific wheels. Plus you get so many other wheel options like 17x10 with +42mm offset and such.Consider running wider than 245 tire on a 9" rim. 245 bulges too much and doesn't look right, not even mentioning that it doesn't protect the wheel's outer lip. IMHO best combo would be 255/45/17 (or 255/45/18) up front and 285/40/17 (or 285/40/18) in the back with +36 offset all around. Both sizes are very close to the stock tire in diameter and will affect your speedo by a minimal amount if any at all.
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Very good info, thank you.
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Actually any mark will be able to run 18x9 36mm offset without issues.The only rubbing was experienced by people with lug-centric (blah....) 17x9 +36mm offset. Remember that with 18" wheels you move 1/2" out where the spindle curves up and toward the car. There is a great option now to get the 4.50 hub swap done and use the new wheels made for 05-06 Mustangs. Most of them come with +36mmm offsets and are priced a lot cheaper than the lincoln specific wheels. Plus you get so many other wheel options like 17x10 with +42mm offset and such.Consider running wider than 245 tire on a 9" rim. 245 bulges too much and doesn't look right, not even mentioning that it doesn't protect the wheel's outer lip. IMHO best combo would be 255/45/17 (or 255/45/18) up front and 285/40/17 (or 285/40/18) in the back with +36 offset all around. Both sizes are very close to the stock tire in diameter and will affect your speedo by a minimal amount if any at all.
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Very good info, thank you.
RE: 17 x 9s on the front of a Mark VIII?
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I don't want to initiate a war here, but Mad1stgen says 285 can fit with no issues and maxmk8 says 275 will rub in the back.How wide of a tire can one really go on an 18x9 inch rim?
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And I would add the manufacturer of the tire. When you're talking an 1/8" or so clearance, wheel offset can obviously be critical, but also other factors such as individual vehicle suspension, etc...
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I don't want to initiate a war here, but Mad1stgen says 285 can fit with no issues and maxmk8 says 275 will rub in the back.How wide of a tire can one really go on an 18x9 inch rim?
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And I would add the manufacturer of the tire. When you're talking an 1/8" or so clearance, wheel offset can obviously be critical, but also other factors such as individual vehicle suspension, etc...
RE: 17 x 9s on the front of a Mark VIII?
275/40/18 is the perfect size for 18x9s.. not 285 which is also a lot less common. I have to agree and disagree about the 245 on a 9" wheel. I agree that it doesn't protect the wheel, but I disagree because it looks just fine and no worse than my 275s out back.
An additional point to be taken into account. One can cut about 1/3 an inch of additional clearance by cutting into the quarter panel lip in the wheel-well. I had to do that, then I had no more issues on the right and only very minor rubbing (car lowered on freeway hitting bump) on the left.
275/40/18 is the perfect size for 18x9s.. not 285 which is also a lot less common. I have to agree and disagree about the 245 on a 9" wheel. I agree that it doesn't protect the wheel, but I disagree because it looks just fine and no worse than my 275s out back.
An additional point to be taken into account. One can cut about 1/3 an inch of additional clearance by cutting into the quarter panel lip in the wheel-well. I had to do that, then I had no more issues on the right and only very minor rubbing (car lowered on freeway hitting bump) on the left.
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Dominus
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RE: 17 x 9s on the front of a Mark VIII?
Wow. Damn good info. I will be getting the 17s with the 285s in the rear.
Wow. Damn good info. I will be getting the 17s with the 285s in the rear.
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Dominus
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RE: 17 x 9s on the front of a Mark VIII?
I actually decided to go with 18 x 9/18 x 10 inch wheels. 255/45/18 up front, 285/40/18 rear.
I actually decided to go with 18 x 9/18 x 10 inch wheels. 255/45/18 up front, 285/40/18 rear.
Lonnie
Blue Oval Chips
RE: 17 x 9s on the front of a Mark VIII?
I've got factory 03 Cobra 17 x 9s on my Mark and I have issues with them and the tires rubbing. I had to space the front out 1/4". These are the third 17 x 9s I have tired on the car. First were the LMS aftermarket type, then the 95 Cobra factory and now the 03 Cobra factory. All of them rubbed the spindle arm on both sides. Had the same issue with a few customer's cars also.
Tried running the 275 in the rear and at highway speeds they rubbed on any bump.
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I've got factory 03 Cobra 17 x 9s on my Mark and I have issues with them and the tires rubbing. I had to space the front out 1/4". These are the third 17 x 9s I have tired on the car. First were the LMS aftermarket type, then the 95 Cobra factory and now the 03 Cobra factory. All of them rubbed the spindle arm on both sides. Had the same issue with a few customer's cars also.
Tried running the 275 in the rear and at highway speeds they rubbed on any bump.
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Mad1stGen
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RE: 17 x 9s on the front of a Mark VIII?
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I've got factory 03 Cobra 17 x 9s on my Mark and I have issues with them and the tires rubbing. I had to space the front out 1/4". These are the third 17 x 9s I have tired on the car. First were the LMS aftermarket type, then the 95 Cobra factory and now the 03 Cobra factory. All of them rubbed the spindle arm on both sides. Had the same issue with a few customer's cars also. Tried running the 275 in the rear and at highway speeds they rubbed on any bump.http://members.tccoa.com/lonnie/smallmark8.jpgwww.blueovalchips.com95 Lincoln Mark VIII279 rwhp 305 rwtq
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Lonnie, this is very wierd, as I have OEM 03 cobra wheels on my car, and there is 1/2" clearance to the spindle in the front. The rear is a different story, but I like the wide track look actually.
Maybe bent spindle arm ? Measure the actual backspace on your wheels and we can compare the measurements.
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I've got factory 03 Cobra 17 x 9s on my Mark and I have issues with them and the tires rubbing. I had to space the front out 1/4". These are the third 17 x 9s I have tired on the car. First were the LMS aftermarket type, then the 95 Cobra factory and now the 03 Cobra factory. All of them rubbed the spindle arm on both sides. Had the same issue with a few customer's cars also. Tried running the 275 in the rear and at highway speeds they rubbed on any bump.http://members.tccoa.com/lonnie/smallmark8.jpgwww.blueovalchips.com95 Lincoln Mark VIII279 rwhp 305 rwtq
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Lonnie, this is very wierd, as I have OEM 03 cobra wheels on my car, and there is 1/2" clearance to the spindle in the front. The rear is a different story, but I like the wide track look actually.
Maybe bent spindle arm ? Measure the actual backspace on your wheels and we can compare the measurements.
Lonnie
Blue Oval Chips
RE: 17 x 9s on the front of a Mark VIII?
Not to get into another pissing contest over this but I’ve been through this with over a dozen others including Geno. Posted pics and measurements several times. Even had someone drive here to prove me wrong and to no avail. There’s nothing wrong with my spindles, the wheels have the correct 36mm off set. All the wheels were tried on my Tbird, another Tbird and 4 other Marks. Only one Mark ended up with a 1/8" clearance out of all we tested besides the guy that came down here with his.
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Not to get into another pissing contest over this but I’ve been through this with over a dozen others including Geno. Posted pics and measurements several times. Even had someone drive here to prove me wrong and to no avail. There’s nothing wrong with my spindles, the wheels have the correct 36mm off set. All the wheels were tried on my Tbird, another Tbird and 4 other Marks. Only one Mark ended up with a 1/8" clearance out of all we tested besides the guy that came down here with his.
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Lonnie
Blue Oval Chips
RE: 17 x 9s on the front of a Mark VIII?
No hostility, just the same story. Everyone swears there's something wrong and it can't be so. I got the same story since I bought the Mark in 00 when I first installed the LMS wheels. I had the old style spindles on the Tbird (92) up until 96 when I put the Cobra brakes on it. I had to swap spindles to the new style (same as all Mark 8) so the brakes would fit (floating style). Afterwards the factory 95 Cobra wheels that I had on the car did not fit because the tire was right up against the spindles. So I removed the tires from the wheels to check for clearance when I discovered that the rims were hard up against the spindles when lugs were tightened fully. The Tbird seen a lot of open track duty and autocross so it's suspension was constantly being checked out. Both my vehicles are in excellent condition suspension wise. Both were even put a frame machine besides having the suspension completely gone through.
And then why is it that I got the same issue with the other vehicles. And I know of over a dozen other people that have run into the same problem. They just won’t post about it because they say it’s useless, most won’t believe you until they have it happen to them. Only reason I posted here yesterday was I was wondering why I all of a sudden started getting emails and PMs about it again. And once again I'm having to defend my experience.
What I'm saying is people need to realize that these wheels are not a direct bolt on for every car. They need to be prepared to anny up for longer studs and a spacer. If you use a spacer the studs only allow you 3 full threads to secure the wheels, that's not enough. You have to get the longer studs and cut them down to the proper length.
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No hostility, just the same story. Everyone swears there's something wrong and it can't be so. I got the same story since I bought the Mark in 00 when I first installed the LMS wheels. I had the old style spindles on the Tbird (92) up until 96 when I put the Cobra brakes on it. I had to swap spindles to the new style (same as all Mark 8) so the brakes would fit (floating style). Afterwards the factory 95 Cobra wheels that I had on the car did not fit because the tire was right up against the spindles. So I removed the tires from the wheels to check for clearance when I discovered that the rims were hard up against the spindles when lugs were tightened fully. The Tbird seen a lot of open track duty and autocross so it's suspension was constantly being checked out. Both my vehicles are in excellent condition suspension wise. Both were even put a frame machine besides having the suspension completely gone through.
And then why is it that I got the same issue with the other vehicles. And I know of over a dozen other people that have run into the same problem. They just won’t post about it because they say it’s useless, most won’t believe you until they have it happen to them. Only reason I posted here yesterday was I was wondering why I all of a sudden started getting emails and PMs about it again. And once again I'm having to defend my experience.
What I'm saying is people need to realize that these wheels are not a direct bolt on for every car. They need to be prepared to anny up for longer studs and a spacer. If you use a spacer the studs only allow you 3 full threads to secure the wheels, that's not enough. You have to get the longer studs and cut them down to the proper length.
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www.blueovalchips.com
95 Lincoln Mark VIII
279 rwhp 305 rwtq