2001 lincoln T.C.vrs 96 MUSTANG 4.6

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Whats the difference in 2001 lincoln town car 4.6, and a 96 mustang gt besides non pi vrs pi. are the pi cams and heads different. the reason that i ask is that i'm selling a 2001 pi motor to a guy that has received info that the car will run like a town car if he swaps the npi motor out of the mustang and puts in the tc motor in. Wouldnt the cars computer determin how the engine drove or better yet performed. Is there a different 2001 pi cam out there and if there is whats the difference. is it sorta like the cobra cams and our (mark 8) cams. Not that big of a deal? I know alot of ?s but i dont want to give this guy bum scoop. Thanks in advance.
 
Well the car wont run like a TC cause its going in a mustang which is probably 600 lbs lighter!!! I know the cams are different(I dont have the stats right here with me, im on the porch with a beer!) but I believe the biggest difference is the intake side of the lobes.
 
Thanks, must be nice to be on the porch, w/beer in hand. So the intake lobes are diff huh. is there much difference? dont need spec sheets or anything but your honest opinion from what you can remember.
 
Ill have to double check, unless someone posts up before me, give a sec(damn it I have to get up, lol had my feet up on the table!)
 
Snaketer(cool name btw),

As per wikipedia......... "The Mustang GT's power increased to 260 hp (194 kW) at 5250 rpm and 302 ft·lbf (409 N•m) of torque at 4000 rpm via the new "Power Improved" (PI) heads, cams, and intake manifold. The new 2-valve SOHC 4.6L Mustang exhibited characteristics associated with a performance engine when compared to the performance behavior of the earlier 2-valve SOHC 4.6 L engines."

Regarding the Town Car.....

"1998-The Cartier model also received a 220 hp version of the Modular V8."

"A Touring Edition also became available in late 2000. The Touring Edition featured a more powerful 235 hp version of the Town Car's Modular V8 engine"

As per Sean Hyland's "How to build a performance 4.6L" book...."1999-up Performance Improved" included Heads/Intake/cams(I'm almost 99% positive)

Also....the Cylinder Head Volume/Flow data....

96-98 GT Volume "Chamber CC" 51(barely better) "Intake Port CC" 146

PI Heads "Champer" 42 "Intake Port" 159(Better)

The PI valve flow is WAY better on BOTH the exhaust and intake all the way up to .500" Valve Lift. The GT heads flow a smidge more at .550/.600" than the PI heads on the intake valve lift, but the exhaust flow is extremely better in comparison.

So.....for people to say "its gonna drive like a TC", tell them to prove it or STFU. And like Matt said....more torque/hp in a lighter car is more power for the punch. As far as the numbers go, the PI setup is WAY better than the 96-98 GT setup. As far as internals go....I'm not sure. They may be made of different material but I can assure you that the PI engine is going to run/perform much better than his GT engine. And yes....you NEED to use the TC computer and that will deligate how the engine runs. Once he tunes it or gets a chip, he will be able to turn all the crap off to "de-tune" the TC engine and get even more performance out of it.
 
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Awesome. Now if the car does not have the tc computer, why cant you hook up the mustang comp? TC com aint gonna happen, so the eng needs a new intake anyways, does it have to have tc comp? Thanks again and I freaking love your ride J, hope that don't sound gay.
 
I dont know about the man or auto. i can see how there might be something going on with the auto, but does the trans have anything to do with how the engine is going to run in said name car. the people he was dealing with said that he would have to get some of the electrical parts off the engine and a wire loom which aint that big of a deal or is it. he couldnt remember what they said exactly but that it would only be worth the heads and to forget about the rest cause it would run like a "luxury" mustang.
 
But figuring out what trans it has also determines what ecu he is going to have to use, which depends on how its programed to run the engine. If he is using the lincoln trans then he will have to use the lincoln computer since the stang doesn't have contols to run the 4wr70(or whatever model # the TC runs)..
 
SNAKETER said:
Awesome. Now if the car does not have the tc computer, why cant you hook up the mustang comp?
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If the GT is a 5 speed(if its NOT than he's a retard....waste of time for an auto) than he will not have any issues running the TC engine.

SNAKETER said:
Thanks again and I freaking love your ride J, hope that don't sound gay.
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I've been looking for a place to use this...........
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LMAO...just kidding! That doesn't sound gay man, thanks for the props :)

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that it would only be worth the heads and to forget about the rest cause it would run like a "luxury" mustang.
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OMG.....the people he is getting this "info" from are f'n retarded. n00bs if you will, lol.

Here is EXACTLY what he NEEDS to do. Sell him the TC engine, have him use all of the sensors/EGR/TPS/MAF/etc....off of his GT engine. In lamen terms....just use the mechanical portion(long block) of the TC engine and he will have no issues except some minor relocating of sensors or plugging coolant passage holes(the TC engine probably uses 2 CTsensors and the GT only one).

Ask him if the people that is giving him this "info" drive imports, haha.

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That is this guys non buying point and i dont blame him.
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The PI engine it WAY better than the GT engine....doesn't matter what car it comes in. Its NOT the mechanical portion of the engine that changes the way it runs, its the sensors/exhaust/intake tube & silencers/and expecially the ECU.
 
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