are high 11's reachable with this setup

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Ok heres what I’m thinking


Rearend 3.73 center section 5 star 650
Drive shaft Denny’s driveshaft 475
Exhaust double X + polished mufflers 700
Blower Walbro 255, 42#, MAF, Chip SQ V2 3800
Rims and tires Nitto nt450 or comp T/A’s 2100
ECC tuner tweecer or mafterburner 400
Total 8125

BTW 1997 LSC with 56k
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

You may achieve 11's with that setup. I would think you would need about 500+ rwhp. That much power without an intercooler on a stock shortblock probably will not last long.
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

i'd skip the MAFterburner or tweecer and just have a pro tune it. And you may want to add a higher stall torque converter, and rebuild your trans. Only one way to find out if that'll get you 11's...
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

how about a "aftercooler" and a meth/alcohol kit. My buick buddies have about 30 coolers hanging on their walls.
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

i'm a I.T. manager with almost 20 year experience in computers. And I've got alot of tweakers on the porsche and turbo regal i think i can program this ecc.
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

Ok heres what I’m thinking


Rearend 3.73 center section 5 star 650
Drive shaft Denny’s driveshaft 475
Exhaust double X + polished mufflers 700
Blower Walbro 255, 42#, MAF, Chip SQ V2 3800
Rims and tires Nitto nt450 or comp T/A’s 2100
ECC tuner tweecer or mafterburner 400
Total 8125

BTW 1997 LSC with 56k
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See: http://www.lincolnsclub.org/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=49&forum=DCForumID5

I think you have a chance - just not sure about that last line:
BTW 1997 LSC with 56k;)

BTW, $8125? - that's almost as much as what I paid for my '93 three years ago!:eek: Speed does cost money!

IMO, if 11 seconds is what's important, I'd go with 4.10s or 4.30s(w/ posi) in lieu of 3.73s(open). I'd definitely go with a dynotune instead of tweecer or mafterburner - but that's just me.
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

EDIT - I missed something, that first word next to the Walbro that reads "Blower".

With the right tune, I'd say 11s are possible, but I wouldn't expect to go ripping off 11s with your first run. It'll take some tuning and tweaking.

Kale
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

will not do 11's with ONLY that setup and not take weight out of the car. By that i mean more than 150lbs. I'll put 100$ on it.
If by some odd chance you got did max that S trim out and put 18 psi on that engine it would fail. Period. it might not fail the first two months but it would soon. 9.85 compression cannot support the boost needed to run 11's with the mods you provided.
You would have to have the smallest pully with an 8 rib setup to attain 11's with that car with only the mods you listed.

With headers, intake swap, intercooler, 4.30's and a converter you might do it with a "safe" 10-12lbs. you would also need a lot of tranny upgrades to even hold that power for more than a couple months.

You could subtract converter and driveshaft for 3.73's and Nitrous to get out of the hole.
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

it will most certainly be a posi 3.73. the 11 second thing is a respect thing. I've done it the 930(easy) and the T/A (Realy really hard) but i'm geting older and this might be my last "hoorah". the blower line should read.

Vortech blower 10 - 12 psi walbro 255 fuel pump 42# injectors MAF and a programable chip

I'm sorry I dont want to wait 2 -3 days for the mail to deliver my chip everytime i want to tweak out a few more HP and climb under there and replacing the chiip everytime. to much of a hassle. if i blow the motor because of my programign no big deal if someone else blows it there will be h3ll to pay.
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

if i crack 11.99 i'll be happy i'll put a couple of ricers in there place and be 3 for 3 in my groups of friends 11's club. you've got a point about weight that will be something i will have to consider. if I run 11.99 twice i'll be perfectly happy. I had my 930 setup for 11.8 for 2 runs and never ran it down the track again. and that car is still running on stock internals. With a quick tune and a few parts swap it could do it again no prob. I'm not looking to make 11's every weekend it just respect. I plan on a aftercooler and a meth kit with it also so the air will be cool. the stall / transmission will be upgraded when it breaks. the drive shaft is more for the vibration issues i've heard about when changeing to a 3.73 posi
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

I have 3.73's in my car and no vibration. I have only had it at 115 so far, but so far no vibration up to that point.

YOu will have the power to do it in a lesser car, but your fat pig mark VIII will not get off the line fast enough. Its weight and torqueless engine hurt you. You have to cut very good 60ft times to get an 11.XX.

I have ran 106 in the 1/4 mile but my ET was only a 13.35. Most everycar I have seen run a 106mph at the tracks ran a high 12. THey were lighter and their 60ft times were a lot better. Remember HP is the measure of hp, and ET is pretty much the measure you getting tq and hp to the pavement. You car will essentially eat up a lot of tq with its massive weight.

Due to aerodynamics and some other factors I can usually keep up with faster (ET) cars on the highway from most any mph roll.

At the track is a different story. I loose a couple car legnths off the line jsut about everytime, so I loose the race.

If you want a fast street mark VIII, you had better have a lot of spare cash, not be scared of borrowed power "NOS", or chop and strip it to pieces to where it is not as driveable.

If you want a car that can be modded easily and made lightning quick go buy a supra, mustang, or F-Body. A mark VIII is not a good start.

you had better have a lot of patience and money to get your Gen 2 to run an 11.XX. Without Nitrous to help you off the line you will create a lot of headaches for yourself.

If you want to run a 11.99, I suggest 4.30's, drag radials/slicks, headers with full exhaust, intake swap, your vortech SC with only 10psi so you do not have to change your fuel injectors and MAF, and a 115 shot to get your car out of the hole. I think you could hit 11.8 with that, if your engine runs decent right now and you have a really cold day.

What 1/4 mile times are you running right now anyway? low 15"s?
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

Im agreeing with ponyfreak on this one...doesnt seem possible without losing weight..i have all the mods you listed minus the supercharger and i cant break into the low 8's in 1/8th mile yet. I know my torque convertor is shot and will be going with a PI 3500 and Dennis tranny soon with 100 shot of NOS. I need slicks now, and definately will need after tranny swap and bottle. Im going to switch to shiftmaster chip so i can switch settings faster also. here are my mods.

1995 dark portifino blue mark 8
true dual exaust with X over and Maganflows.
ford motorosport 4:10s' with stud kit, and rebuild kit plus new bearings.
EATON posi unit
255 LPH fuel pump
Dennis INTEC chip
ford motorsport wires with 2 ranges colder plugs
3" air intake snaked to front of car (both resonators removed)
stock 20 spokes with 4 Bridgestone pole position 245/50-16's
aeromotive fp regulator
cobra 130AMP alternator
New EEC computer,o2 sensors,EGR valve,IAC valve,TPS, and wiring harness extended off of engine.
fuels lines and intake are wrapped with insulation
Lincoln MotorSports 3 piece wing over the hump in back (not that it makes any speed differance, but it looks damn cool.
B&M 24,000 GVW tranny cooler
Dennis driveshaft (by the way my old one is for sale)
ADDCO rear swaybar.front disconnected at track to raise faster at track.

also battery will be going into trunk this weekend if summitt delivers that box this time before i leave for another vacation in the desert. haha
ohh on a side note....Dennis's Reinhart driveshaft is good for above 140MPH with no vibration...trust me (i had my speedo pointing straight down and off to the left a little and 137mph with the 4:10's installed it has a little whine and hum that tickles your butt through the seat. Once you come back down off of 6700 RPM it is totally silent again. GREAT PRODUCT...

Severely want to run on a REAL 1/4 mile track to see what im pulling.
(all we have here is a stupid 1/8th mile)
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

I too am with Pony here.Without taking weight out there is no way.Especially without SOME tranny work and at minimum a good converter.
I'm not trying to talk you out of your dreams here, just being realistic.If you really want to make some reliable power and go fast give me a call or shoot me an e mail.702 497 7470 or LMSwest@yahoo.com

Daniel your right though some responses were pretty funny.
Bye the way Dan, hows Ponies engine coming?Pretty soon hes going to have to buy another calander.LOL
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

only need new injectors if you are running over 10psi or so. That is the beauty of having 24lb's stock. A new pump is necessary though.
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

Severely want to run on a REAL 1/4 mile track to see what im pulling.
(all we have here is a stupid 1/8th mile)
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from all my experience all your power is in the first 1/8 mile after that its just keeping it up for the last 1/8 IMO
 
RE: are high 11's reachable with this setup

I dunno, you can launch like a mofo and not have much power, and still put down a good 1/8 mile time. Your power is indicated more by your mph at the end of the quarter than anything else.
 
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