D2S HID Bulb Adapter Plate to 9500 Bulb?

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I know eventually the HID bulbs in my 98 LSC will go bad. Aftermarket HID kits are pretty easy to get now, and just swapping out the entire factory DC HID system seems to be the best option. After searching thru the past posts on the subject here and elsewhere, it seems most people are trying to adapt the 9005 based HID bulb replacement kits to use in swapping out the factory 9500 bulb system. But all those bulbs are the cheap knock off type, the factory HID systems out there acutally use the D2S bulb type base, for which you can get good bulbs like the OEMs use that are better quality but they aren't cheap. So not having been able to find it so far, does anyone out there make an adapter plate to be able to use a D2S bulb in the factory 9500 bulb socket?

Hopefully someone out there is making an adapter for the D2S bulb. I'd rather buy it than have to try to go through the hassle of trying to make something myself without access to milling tools to do it easily.

Thanks in adavnce!
Bill
 
Well, the aftermarket 9006 HID kits/bulbs work fine. With the lifetime warranties offered, I don't see an issue.

The depth of the D2S bulb base (25mm) doesn't leave much room for an adapter once the electrical connector is attached to the bulb.

Are you planning to use aftermarket ballasts to drive OEM style D2S HID bulbs? If so, all the the proper cables that I've seen have right angle connectors, which I believe would also be a problem.
 

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buy some of dlf's adapters and a hid kit off ebay..Get everything needed for the install for 100 bucks...Take out your oem ones and sell them. You will prob get 100 each..so you'll beable to convert them and have 100 bucks to play with..Thats what i did.
 
Thanks for the reply DLF. I do have an aftermarket 55W Slim Digital 4300K HID kit for the 9005 bulb that I put in my Denail projectors, so I do know that they work. But the cheap aftermarket bulbs are still a lower quality than the OEMs use, and they basically use D2S bulbs as the true current actually street legal DOT certified HID bulbs that are out there.

The suggestion to use a D2S bulb based conversion for the 9500 was from the maker of my HID conversion kit when I asked them what would be the best to go with if possible for 9500 conversion. This would allow the use of the better made OEM D2S bulbs from companies like Phillips or GE, even though they are more expensive they are longer lasting and better quality controlled, or it would allow the use of the cheap Chinese knock off bulbs that all the kits use in that size too. Anything else that is HID is just one of the cheap knock off bulbs since none of the actual big bulb makers produce the OEM quality ones with the bases to fit all these other adapted bulb types.

I'd like to have the option if possible to use the better OEM quality D2S bulbs, but it may not be an easy option, I may have to go with a 9005 aftermarket based option since that is what seems to be popular now.

Luckily right now I still don't have to worry about it yet, the bulbs in my 98 LSC are still working fine. The 98 LSC only has about 70K on it still right now and spends most of it's time in the garage, I'm still just dreading the day my blend door motor arm breaks! That will be a pain to fix...

My daily driver is still the 86 LSC with about 295K on it now...lol. I've been wondering if it's worth converting that over to a set of the 9004 based bi-xenon HID kits to keep the low and high beams, but I haven't heard good things about the aftermarket bi-xenon kits as far as being reliable and working well. And pretty much lose the flash of high beams feature. But I just installed the HID kit in the Denali not too long ago, so I want to give it some more time and see how well they work out before I decide to change the system in the 86 LSC too.
 
Thanks too sbcaprice305. I plan to stick with the factory 9500s until they go bad. Who knows, I could get lucky and never end up needing to make the conversion, or at least not anytime soon, and who knows what will be out there by then.
 
bsaco said:
My daily driver is still the 86 LSC with about 295K on it now...lol. I've been wondering if it's worth converting that over to a set of the 9004 based bi-xenon HID kits to keep the low and high beams, but I haven't heard good things about the aftermarket bi-xenon kits as far as being reliable and working well. And pretty much lose the flash of high beams feature. But I just installed the HID kit in the Denali not too long ago, so I want to give it some more time and see how well they work out before I decide to change the system in the 86 LSC too.
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I've had a Bi-Xenon 9007 HID kit in my '95 SC for about a year now, and it works fine, without any issues regarding "flash to pass". The Bi-Xenon bulbs actually have a single filament along with a small solenoid to change the bulb angle when high beams are selected.
 
Thanks DLF, I'll keep that in mind. What brand did you go with? I went with Retro-Solutions for the HID kit I put in my Denali. Not the cheapest out there, but I found decent reviews about them from various places, and they are actually in the US and answer questions if you have issues.
 
DLF said:
I've had a Bi-Xenon 9007 HID kit in my '95 SC for about a year now, and it works fine, without any issues regarding "flash to pass". The Bi-Xenon bulbs actually have a single filament along with a small solenoid to change the bulb angle when high beams are selected.
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If they are HID they don't have a filament ;)
 
bsaco said:
Thanks DLF, I'll keep that in mind. What brand did you go with? I went with Retro-Solutions for the HID kit I put in my Denali. Not the cheapest out there, but I found decent reviews about them from various places, and they are actually in the US and answer questions if you have issues.
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VVME
 
Hey Bill, the blend door wasn't that bad. Just did my first one for my Dad...the worse part was the stupid 1/4 turns with my long handled ratchet. Thanks for the good reads...I don't think I've seen you post too much. :)
 
Yup Steve, no filament in an HID!

Thanks for the info on VVME bi-xenon kits DLF.

J - I've seen the whole how-to guide with pics for replacing the blend door arm. And even though do-able, still a pain in the rear I'd rather not spend my day doing...lol, I dread the day it happens, but who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and it won't go bad on me!

As for posting, I originally joined LOD back in 2000 as a paying member when I first bought my '98 LSC, but I've had my '86 LSC since 1994. I used to post a lot more back then, and then there was the whole board split thing a few years later, I came over here, but then never posted as much. Every once in awhile I pop back in when I need to check on something, but not as involved keeping busy with other things, that's life I guess...lol. But I do have a lot more experience personally taking apart and fixing stuff on my '86 LSC. It's broken more stuff over the years having had it longer and with about 295K miles on the original engine and tranny as my daily driver versus about 70K on the '98 LSC, which is pretty much a weekend garage queen now. Let me state I personally hate the fiberboard door panels in the '86 LSC that disintegrate more every time I have to touch them! I just had it off to fix a power window motor on the driver's side, now after being back together for 2 weeks, the power door lock accutator goes out on me! And don't get me started on the idiots who have screwed up the paint job on that car too. Damn cars...lol!
 
Well you can't judge a book by its cover huh? 30 posts in 7 years...not too shabby! :p Lol! Ya I've never been a fan of those LSC's, except when I would steal the HO engine's out for my stang. :D One this is for sure though....once you get motivated enough, you can work on that LSC with ease vs. the Mark 8 because you know it like the back of your hand.

If you're referring to the blend door guide on this site.....don't even look at it. I used the easier, FASTER way (thanks to Jamie) and got it done in about 100 minutes. Would have been faster but I had to take a bolt on the blend door back out because the metal rod was on the wrong side of it. Definitally NOT a full day job, lol.
 
There needs to be a new write up on the blend door replacement or maybe the current one can be edited. That one was done years ago by Alex, he was the first to attempt the repair on his own and not go by the book. Even when Joe and I did ours a few years back we noticed there was a lot of unnecessary steps in there.
 
Ok I'll check it out an let you know. It's fresh in my mind cause I did it on the 4th.
 
Hey J - I know I'll definitely appreciate an updated how to FAQ for the blend door if/when I ever need it!

And yes, I probably lost a few hundred posts from the other board in the LOD split...lol

On a totally separate Mark VIII electrical note that might be useful to someone, if you ever lose the left rear ABS wheel sensor, you lose ABS and speedo signals, the Mark VIII doesn't use any other sensor as a backup. They are obsolete parts thru Ford (idiots!), but you can still get them brand new out on the web (I think I got mine from RockAuto.com a few monts ago). Once I opened the box for the one made by Airtex, it was literally an exact match except one number was ground off the part. So not sure if they are making new exact ones using the Ford molds, or selling Ford stock that they bought up and grinding a part number off...?

Bill
 
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