Dennis' Transmissions & Bad Mouthing?

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It seems there's two guys that used to work for Dennis (or are friends of someone that work for Dennis for a few weeks), and got pissed at him. Now, they are spreading all of this crap about transmissions and such being really bad from Reinhart Automotive (Dennis' company, http://www.reinhartautomotive.com/ ).

Form what I've learned, Dennis used to used Art Carr units until switching to American Transmissions for 3 or 4 buildups. Supposily they were building them to Jerry's specs, but they were not. Dennis refunded all customers who got the American Transmissions and got things sorted out. He's back to Art Carr again, just like the tranny I just got from him two weeks ago. It's a solid unit, seriously.



Just a friendly post to see if anyone else has heard of this. And if anyone else knows who these guys are. My new transmission I just got from Dennis after hearing all of this about him, is perfect. So who's saying it's not? What proof can they give? I have proof sitting behind my motor, and a 692rwhp motor about to be transplanted into it (once other mods are done to the car).

I'd really like to know. The Internet is such a hoot. LOL

-Eric
 
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Well, apparently a number of transmissions (greater than 3 or 4, from what i've read) have been inspected and determined to be not as advertised. Whether that's Dennis' fault or his suppliers fault is not for me to determine.

Apparently Dennis spends a lot of time ensuring that his name is not smeared online, and employs friends and customers in defending him whenever there is a negative post, which i imagine is why this post is now here. But i know Dennis has also threatened to sue TCCOA and Modular Depot over this little flap.

My question is, how do you know your trans is "a solid unit"? Did you tear it down to make sure you got what was advertised, or at least drop the pan and spin the output shaft to make sure yours isn't built the same way the problem transmissions were built?

Some people more knowledgeable than me about these transmissions pointed out that if you spin the output shaft of the transmission you should hear a clicking sound if the mechanical diode OWC was installed. Did you do that?
 
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Well, apparently a number of transmissions (greater than 3 or 4, from what i've read) have been inspected and determined to be not as advertised. Whether that's Dennis' fault or his suppliers fault is not for me to determine.Apparently Dennis spends a lot of time ensuring that his name is not smeared online, and employs friends and customers in defending him whenever there is a negative post, which i imagine is why this post is now here. But i know Dennis has also threatened to sue TCCOA and Modular Depot over this little flap.[/div]It's his suppliers. He went back to ArtCar and it's a different tranny.

I'm posting here cause I didn't want to get into the mix of others at Modular Depot and other places. Seems they are all one sided and I wanted to see what the Mark VIII owners say about these recent events. As the reason I went with Dennis, and glad to get the ArtCar unit, was due to reading posts here and on the "other" mark viii website (which they banned me from from having a signature of 5 lines instead of 4, and the admin didn't like me describing that my typing "Eric" at the end of my post isn't a "signature". That is just stupid. LOL).

[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]My question is, how do you know your trans is "a solid unit"? Did you tear it down to make sure you got what was advertised, or at least drop the pan and spin the output shaft to make sure yours isn't built the same way the problem transmissions were built?[/div]Yep, dropped the pan and was surprised to see ArtCar go that extra mile to put in the 99 valve body and the extra oil passage to the rear bearing. No one does that, except to Jerry's specs.

Aiight, I didn't think I should say it. But this is why I posted: He gave me a hell of a discount, for nothing more then ordering a PI converter (which is dropped shipped), an ArtCar tranny (which is dropped shipped) and a chip (which I got before the other two), but a hell of a lot less then SC and other suppliers.

He's willing to wheel-n-deal, and it's dropped shipped from the same place as all others. So why not save several hundred dollars?

[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]Some people more knowledgeable than me about these transmissions pointed out that if you spin the output shaft of the transmission you should hear a clicking sound if the mechanical diode OWC was installed. Did you do that?[/div]No, not precisely. Several "mechanical diode" one way clutches I've installed at Ford didn't make a "clicking" noise, while others are very loud (and people complained). I wouldn't say that's a definantly way to check for it. Only way is to tear into the tranny and inspect it.

Again, it's not Dennis but ArtCar that built this tranny. Dennis is just giving a discount going through him.

The transmissions from American Transmissions are the ones at fault. I haven't dealt with them before, but I know my dealership tried a few units in trucks a while back (I sometimes worked i the desiel area) and we wouldn't use them again.

And Dennis isn't using Amercian Trans anylonger (hence, my ArtCar unit).
 
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Well, hopefully Dennis has the problems worked out. I'm glad you are a satisfied customer.

It takes a lot longer to build a reputation than it does to destroy one, though. I've heard good things about Art Carr, though.

The only thing i ever bought from Dennis was my driveshaft. It was drop-shipped from a company 15 mins from here, and it was cheaper ordering it through Dennis (1500 miles from here) than it was to go to the company and buy it from them.
 
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I spoke to American Transmission and they built way more than 4 or 5 for Dennis. I know...I got two of them. The first one failed. I got a replacement (from American Transmission), but I also got a hard time from Dennis. That was two years ago, and Dennis hasn't bothered to let me know how he is going to handle my tranny. I had to call American Transmission to get the story, and even then, it may be a biased story. In any case, I got stuck with the extra time and labor costs even though they admitted the tranny was faulty, and now just recently, the fact that trannys were knowingly being improperly built. Dennis kept throwing the "...performance products are not warrantied..." garbage in my face even though obvious, purposeful negligence was involved.

Anyone who says Dennis takes care of his customers is either being paid to say it, or had enough of a problem to warrant a law suit. In any event, I didn't get squat from Dennis.

Being that my car was recently totaled, I'm glad I don't have to deal with Dennis over it.

I'll being buying my next one from LMS...that is if they use someone other than American.
 
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i personaly feel that $hit happens some times and that just because it is not your fault does not mean you need to find the next clossest person to place the blaim on.i have seen dennis go out of his way so many times to help out a customer that i was shure he would be broke by now sending out refunds even when it was not his fault.
 
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Dan I know you want to stay swinging off his nuts cause hes close to you and he might be able to help you in the future, but what he did with Lonnie was insane and WAY out of line.
And the fact that he sent out a ton of bad trannies and then tried to sue to keep people from finding out instead of having the trannies redone or something was out of line as well.
 
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Damn I wonder WTF tranny I got from him....... Might be time to check before the new engine goes in.

Chris I need parts, return my PM's and calls please.
 
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you know i was just putting in my two cents in like every one else. with the new age of the message board and the politics on it, i am not shure what the truth is any more.
 
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Joe, I just replied to your PM.They caught the guys who broke into the storage and got our stuff back!!!!!!!!!!

Dan, talk to Lonnie.Its definately an eye opening experience.

What happened is SO bad that K danner and Johnny Langton are saying " Gee, maybe Geno isnt so bad afterall" and they used to HATE him. LOL
 
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I've known Johnny Langton for a few years.
I've never known him to give "bad info".

Him and Kdanner have been very accomodating to the "Crazy 8's Racing Team".

They offer us air conditioned RV's at Fun Ford Weekend.
They are always there to "lend a hand" with Car Problems.
They are quite "good people".


Dennis on the other hand, has always given us great service on his smaller ticket items {chips, etc}

I'm kinda torn on this situation, but I'm sure once I talk "face to face" with both parties at FFW in Ennis, that it'll all be a little more "clear to me".

last year at FFW in Ennis both parties were present.

JL&KD=friendly, helpful, good people, always eager to hear how Crazy 8's are doing, offers food, cold drinks and AC!!!

Dennis= was polite, but distant, showed little interest in either mine or tiff's mark 8, He would "speak" only when spoken to.
 
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Eric-Let's get something straight.
No matter how much Dennis wants to turn this into a "personal vendetta"-it's simply not true.
I know Lonnie,yes-but only via phone and internet conversation-I have NEVER EVEN MET Lonnie.
I know Dennis,and have known him alot longer than Lonnie.
Dennis did not treat Lonnie right-no matter what anybody says-but that is not the issue here.
Dennis also claims that I have some personal issues with the way he has treated another person that I know via phone conversation,and of whom I'm a customer.It's amazing how some people have to twist anything they can imagine into a ridiculous story to make themselves appear better.
Here are the facts:
Dennis spec'd transmissions to be built to American Trans.
American Trans did not build them to those specs.
Dennis has no idea as to how many of these transmissions were misbuilt,and has repeatedly tried to sweep it under the rug via threats of lawsuits,and by badgering moderators and admins of several websites.When this all started,a couple of people-including myself warned Dennis that he needed to notify every person that had a trans built by American so it could at least be inspected.We see that happened eh?
100% of the transmissions that were torn down have been fraudulent builds,and the only reason that the first one was replaced so easily was that the person that tore it down is a well known engineer,and Dennis is scared of him making a statement on the net about what he found.
There are also a couple of other transmissions that are being inspected as I type this.
Dennis sure seems to be defensive of American trans-they were clearly screwing him,and his customers.
Now..I'll ask this.
If you're not trying to hide something..why threaten to sue,and why be so defensive of the vendor that was clearly screwing you(or so that's how the story goes)?
When Dennis was presented with the facts from one teardown where a trans-go shift kit was found along with the roller type OWC-and a tailshaft lube line..the story was that American had accidentally mixed it up with a stock rebuild when the lube line was done.
How many trans shops install a trans-go shift kit in a stock rebuild?
We're not talking about a mild install either..this particular trans shifted rather firm-enough that the everyday joe with an auto would complain.
Think about the facts presented all over the place before you respond.
I'm not gonna argue this with anybody-I know what has been found-factual pictures,and parts themselves do not lie.
Also...
I've built several and seen several 4R70W's apart,and I have NEVER seen a MD OWC that was silent-they all make a clearly audible clicking sound when rotated.


JL
 
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You know..by reading this post...I noticed something.
Who misspells Art Carr as Art Car in every post of his online??
Makes you wonder who's got access to who's account info?
JL


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[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]Well, apparently a number of transmissions (greater than 3 or 4, from what i've read) have been inspected and determined to be not as advertised. Whether that's Dennis' fault or his suppliers fault is not for me to determine.Apparently Dennis spends a lot of time ensuring that his name is not smeared online, and employs friends and customers in defending him whenever there is a negative post, which i imagine is why this post is now here. But i know Dennis has also threatened to sue TCCOA and Modular Depot over this little flap.[/div]It's his suppliers. He went back to ArtCar and it's a different tranny.I'm posting here cause I didn't want to get into the mix of others at Modular Depot and other places. Seems they are all one sided and I wanted to see what the Mark VIII owners say about these recent events. As the reason I went with Dennis, and glad to get the ArtCar unit, was due to reading posts here and on the "other" mark viii website (which they banned me from from having a signature of 5 lines instead of 4, and the admin didn't like me describing that my typing "Eric" at the end of my post isn't a "signature". That is just stupid. LOL).[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]My question is, how do you know your trans is "a solid unit"? Did you tear it down to make sure you got what was advertised, or at least drop the pan and spin the output shaft to make sure yours isn't built the same way the problem transmissions were built?[/div]Yep, dropped the pan and was surprised to see ArtCar go that extra mile to put in the 99 valve body and the extra oil passage to the rear bearing. No one does that, except to Jerry's specs. Aiight, I didn't think I should say it. But this is why I posted: He gave me a hell of a discount, for nothing more then ordering a PI converter (which is dropped shipped), an ArtCar tranny (which is dropped shipped) and a chip (which I got before the other two), but a hell of a lot less then SC and other suppliers. He's willing to wheel-n-deal, and it's dropped shipped from the same place as all others. So why not save several hundred dollars?[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]Some people more knowledgeable than me about these transmissions pointed out that if you spin the output shaft of the transmission you should hear a clicking sound if the mechanical diode OWC was installed. Did you do that?[/div]No, not precisely. Several "mechanical diode" one way clutches I've installed at Ford didn't make a "clicking" noise, while others are very loud (and people complained). I wouldn't say that's a definantly way to check for it. Only way is to tear into the tranny and inspect it.Again, it's not Dennis but ArtCar that built this tranny. Dennis is just giving a discount going through him.The transmissions from American Transmissions are the ones at fault. I haven't dealt with them before, but I know my dealership tried a few units in trucks a while back (I sometimes worked i the desiel area) and we wouldn't use them again. And Dennis isn't using Amercian Trans anylonger (hence, my ArtCar unit).
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Its clear to anyone that has half a brain what happened.
Wether or not it was The tranny shops fault OR DR himself at fault I dont know.
I know how DR responded was WAY wrong.

I know for a fact how much it costs to build a tranny to Jerrys specs.I wrote down every single part number in Jerrys thesis and took that straight to my Ford parts guy and placed the order.At MY price which usually beats Five star by a little, the parts total came to 1200 something bucks.Then we unfortunately had to buy a new case as well but thats another story.Now you need to pay a tranny shop to build it which will be anywhere from 400-800 bucks.I always thought it was a little fishy how cheap his bullet proof trannies came out.
 
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Eric,

Are you sure you really want to know? Most, if not all of what you posted is bad information. Everything JL said is true fact.

How do I know? What makes me an authority? Well, I'm one of the guys JL refers to. I had a bogus J-spec Reinhart "Bulletproof" trans that was inspected by a well known engineer and tuner of our cars and found to be nothing more than a '94 stock rebuilt trans with a tailshaft lube.

You may have one that is very close to J-spec. You just bought it and DR is under a microscope on these transmissions, and since 100% of all the transmissions inspected so far are bogus, he really needs someone to post about one that isn't.

I don't know where you got your info, but American built way more than a few transmissions. They were DR's first supplier. They built mine a year ago, they built my friend's 6 months before that, and DR only fired them a few months ago when he found out they were not building them properly... Yes, he knew there were problems with American's builds, BEFORE he was told about mine. When I talked to him, he told me so, and put me on a three way with American and they both admitted that DR had fired them because of problems "similar to mine."

I personally have seen two of these bogus transmission's, mine and my friend's the day he inspected it. I know of two others and there is another here in Florida built from a 1994 case that is suspect and needs to be torn down.

I have no personal grudge against DR. I have been a customer for over a year and spent over $5000 in parts and in his shop for labor. We considered each other friends. He helped me out of a jam early on in our relationship. He's given me parts. He actually reimbursed me most of what it cost to replace his bogus trans. It added 3 months to my build, but oh well. I was not looking to smear him when I had the trans inspected, it was suggested by my engine builder after he found a fried thrust bearing in my old engine. I kept silent for over two months about this while the fires raged. If my agenda was to hurt him I could have blasted him long ago. I have witnesses to my situation that also could have, but didn't. I posted first after DR posted, shifting the blame to American and cited their "shipping error" excuse, which I felt to be extremely hard to believe, for the obvious reason that no one puts a tailshaft lube on a stock rebuild trans, and all the bogus transmissions have tailshaft lubes.. like a "disguise".. at least that is my opinion and posted so. DR's next step was to bad mouth me, accuse me of having an agenda to destroy him, and threaten to sue TCCoA and MD for slander where I posted.. Now that really pi$$ed me off, 'cause I do not like the idea of being bullied into silence, and the threats of lawsuit didn't scare me, 'cause the truth is an absolute defense against slander. At that point my only agenda was to inform other of the potential of having a bum trans... that's is still my only agenda..

When I first discussed my bad trans with DR, and he told me that he had already fired American for having problems, I told him then that I was minimally upset that the trans was bogus, but absolutely angry that he did not inform me of the possibility as soon as he knew of American's problem. I told him then that I thought he should contact all the customer that had American built transmissions and let them know, and he chose not to. I personally told my friend and when he checked his an it was bad, I was furious.. I told DR again that he should blow it clean, and instead, he tried to silence the truth with accusations of a plot against him.

Think about this: if DR truly did not know that American was not giving him what he paid for, when this all came to light, why would he not go after American? Why would he instead threaten to sue his customers for posting about it?? Why not sue American for fraud and civil theft, instead of folks like me for slander? Why back his supplier against his customers, instead of backing his customers against his supplier?

As for saying none of this is DR's responsibility because someone else built the transmissions, and he has taken care of everyong, that is bs, too.. DR put his name on the transmission.. he called them, "my transmission" when everything was goig "good," now all of a sudden they are "their" transmissions. He advertiesed them, he took our money, his name is on my receipt.. he is resposible. As for "taking care of everbody".. that isn't true either.. he is not trying to take care of the people that may have bad transmissions and won't ever know it, if he has his way and keeps it quiet.

I can supply links to other threads about this, but most importantly, there is a sticky at TCCoA in the Drivetrain Forum that explains in detail what to look for in your trans and how to find it to know if you got what you paid for.

I will be happy to share all of my story with anyone who wants to hear it, either here in public if the mods will allow it, or by PM or e-mail.
 
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i think this should be in the vendor review section if any one has noticed. hey but i could be wrong as i have been know to be in the past.
 
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i think this should be in the vendor review section if any one has noticed. hey but i could be wrong as i have been know to be in the past.
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This is much larger than a mere vendor review. Who wants to start a class action against Dennis? I got sent TWO bad trannys. This guy owes me big money, but he doesn't care. I'm glad to see him going down in flames.
 
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All things said - I'm still going to order a trans through Dennis when the time comes. He's a good guy in my book.
 
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I have bought multiple items fom Dennis. While the items are of good quality and I am satisfied, I am unhappy with the support I have gotten, and I don't like the way Dennis trats his customers. Typically if he reads a bad review of himself he will bad mouth the customer publicly. Not cool in my book, and anyone considering buying parts from Dennis should take these accounts into consideration.

On a side note, every vendor on the board has unhappy customers.
 
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no one is perfect and also most people are very negitive about stuff in geniral i belive. i personally try and keep to my belief if you cant say any thing nice then keep it to your self. if i went around bashing every one that did not respond the way i expected them to, i think i would spend way to much time worring about it and posting it.
 
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