Fitch Fuel catalyst

[JERM]

Has anyone installed a Fitch Fuel catalyst on a Mark VIII? I plan on installing one on mine and was wondering where you put your guys put the canister. I know a few people who have ran them with good results.

http://www.fitchcatalyst.com/automobiles.php

 

[logres]

I bought the metal pellets that go into the gas tank.

I get 28mpg at 75mph.

 

[JERM]

I thought the pellets were for atv's and snowmobiles. How long do they last sitting in your tank? I assume it is the same as having the fitch canister, but i couldnt find how long they last on their website. The pellets are a lot less.

 

[logres]

I thought the pellets were for atv's and snowmobiles. How long do they last sitting in your tank? I assume it is the same as having the fitch canister, but i couldnt find how long they last on their website. The pellets are a lot less.

Warrantied for 250,000 miles.

 

[flynfrog]

dont forget teh tornado fuel saver too http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/shop_brands/tornado.html

 

[logres]

dont forget teh tornado fuel saver too http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/shop_brands/tornado.html

Assuming you're being sarcastic, what mileage do YOU get at 75mph?

 

[flynfrog]

25-26 depending on elevation.


But then I added the tornado fuel saver now I get 35mpg

 

[HOTLNC]

I use all those devices. It's kinda embarrassing, you know. I have to stop every hundred miles and so to drain the gas tank. The fuel pressure builds up, you gotta drain some out before it blows!

I use the excess to power my lawn mowers.

 

[flynfrog]

I use all those devices. It's kinda embarrassing, you know. I have to stop every hundred miles and so to drain the gas tank. The fuel pressure builds up, you gotta drain some out before it blows!

I use the excess to power my lawn mowers.

you should add a second engine to help use all of the extra fuel you car is making

 

[JERM]

I know the fitch system works thats why i am getting it. The tornado is a joke and i would never buy it. The fitch has dyno proof that it works. Does the tornado? I doubt it. It looks like it restricts more air than anything.

 

[flynfrog]

I know the fitch system works thats why i am getting it. The tornado is a joke and i would never buy it. The fitch has dyno proof that it works. Does the tornado? I doubt it. It looks like it restricts more air than anything.

yes the tornado does have dyno "proof" as does the K&N filter and Bosch 4+platinum spark plugs and every other snake oil product on the market.

PS if you put less air into the engine it needs less fuel granted you will have less power and you need to apply more throttle therefore buring the same amount of fuel.

If this thing was so great dont you think It would be on the gas pump. Imagine if Shell could claim there fuel was capable of giving 3 more mpg they would sell alot more fuel.

 

[unity]

yes the tornado does have dyno "proof" as does the K&N filter and Bosch 4+platinum spark plugs and every other snake oil product on the market.

PS if you put less air into the engine it needs less fuel granted you will have less power and you need to apply more throttle therefore buring the same amount of fuel.

If this thing was so great dont you think It would be on the gas pump. Imagine if Shell could claim there fuel was capable of giving 3 more mpg they would sell alot more fuel.

Did you review all the dyno tunes? I assume not.

I dont believe in products like these normally. Most are pretty easy to figure out right away. But I did a LOT of searching on this "miracle" and it looks very legit. There have been SEVERAL dynos run, even my Muscle Car Magazines and it looks very legit. I say go for it and hope for the best. I will keep running my E85 though!

 

[flynfrog]

Did you review all the dyno tunes? I assume not.

I dont believe in products like these normally. Most are pretty easy to figure out right away. But I did a LOT of searching on this "miracle" and it looks very legit. There have been SEVERAL dynos run, even my Muscle Car Magazines and it looks very legit. I say go for it and hope for the best. I will keep running my E85 though!

Looking through the chevell test on there website they are using a different fuel for the baseline run. Im not sure what the Actual HP is referring to I assume the Dyno calibration but on the run after a 1000 miles where is magically gained its a different value than the runs where they didn't get the great millage. Id never trust a dyno test form anyone who stands to make money from a product this includes magazines tv shows or the company selling the product.

It looks about as credible as the tornado to me.

on a side not do you run a different map for e85 or mix. Ive tried running it strait I do fine at lower elevations but The car will barely run in Denver with E85 in the tank. I can get by with a mix but its still down on power.

 

[flynfrog]

just some other thoughts on this if its supposed to purify fuel why did it take 100s of miles before it started to work. How come I don't see 30% jumps in fuel consumption by using premium grade VP fuel it doesn't get contaminated like pump gas does.

Imo the best thing you can do it improve fuel economy is tune up yoru car new plugs clean the MAF and new O2 sensors

 

[unity]

on a side not do you run a different map for e85 or mix. Ive tried running it strait I do fine at lower elevations but The car will barely run in Denver with E85 in the tank. I can get by with a mix but its still down on power.

I don't want to get too off-topic, but I have a tune from Torrie and its setup to run E85. Milage is less. I just did a 40 minute run and got 23.6 MPG highway at 65MPH. A stock Mark should not run E85, especially during winter.

 

[logres]

you should add a second engine to help use all of the extra fuel you car is making

Do you know how the device works?

Most people don't know that like milk, gasoline spoils with time. This is why it is recommended to drain the gas from a car that has been sitting for two years rather than try to run it. What happens is that the hydrocarbon chains break down into smaller and larger chains, making for less than optimal combustion. The catalyst uses a platinum alloy to reconstruct the fuel by breaking down the long chains and building the short ones back up.

Ever wonder why people complain about "bad gas" when they fill up at some little po-dunk gas station? It's because the gas in their underground tanks has been sitting for too long.

As someone who actually goes out and purchases a lot of these controversial devices and does testing, I've discovered some that work and some that don't. The Fitch system works. The Tornado and hydrogen peroxide injection system don't.

Note: These claims are only valid for Marks. I can't stipulate regarding other vehicles, though my testing of the Fitch in our H2 also showed positive results. (For those interested, mileage values were taken before and after installation...the computer being reset prior to data collection on both vehicles.)

 

[flynfrog]

Do you know how the device works?

Most people don't know that like milk, gasoline spoils with time. This is why it is recommended to drain the gas from a car that has been sitting for two years rather than try to run it. What happens is that the hydrocarbon chains break down into smaller and larger chains, making for less than optimal combustion. The catalyst uses a platinum alloy to reconstruct the fuel by breaking down the long chains and building the short ones back up.

Ever wonder why people complain about "bad gas" when they fill up at some little po-dunk gas station? It's because the gas in their underground tanks has been sitting for too long.

As someone who actually goes out and purchases a lot of these controversial devices and does testing, I've discovered some that work and some that don't. The Fitch system works. The Tornado and hydrogen peroxide injection system don't.

Note: These claims are only valid for Marks. I can't stipulate regarding other vehicles, though my testing of the Fitch in our H2 also showed positive results. (For those interested, mileage values were taken before and after installation...the computer being reset prior to data collection on both vehicles.)

bad gas is usually high water content not broken down chains.

they do use platinum catalyst in adding octane to fuel on an industrial scale I admittedly do know the actual process buts its been going on since the 50s.

you point out you do testing on these but back to back driving your car or even a dyno run at bobs dyno wearhous with and without isn't really a controlled test. Ive seen it happen people think they should be getting better millage so they drive that way. But I have had this argument with you before, you don't recognize the scientific method you simply claim results valid so I wont get into it with you again. You are claiming one mpg difference with the magic rocks in your tank. This is not above statistical error range in a perfect world let alone in a non controlled test.

I would be willing to bet I can get a bigger gain in MPG by changing my driving style than you can get with any gas saver product on the market.

If it does such a good job of improving my mileage why don't gas companies put it on the pumps. Imagine if they could advertise a 5mpg increase by switching to there fuel.

 

[logres]

bad gas is usually high water content not broken down chains.

they do use platinum catalyst in adding octane to fuel on an industrial scale I admittedly do know the actual process buts its been going on since the 50s.

you point out you do testing on these but back to back driving your car or even a dyno run at bobs dyno wearhous with and without isn't really a controlled test. Ive seen it happen people think they should be getting better millage so they drive that way. But I have had this argument with you before, you don't recognize the scientific method you simply claim results valid so I wont get into it with you again. You are claiming one mpg difference with the magic rocks in your tank. This is not above statistical error range in a perfect world let alone in a non controlled test.

I would be willing to bet I can get a bigger gain in MPG by changing my driving style than you can get with any gas saver product on the market.

If it does such a good job of improving my mileage why don't gas companies put it on the pumps. Imagine if they could advertise a 5mpg increase by switching to there fuel.

I got a 10% increase in mileage in my Mark and H2...much higher than statistical noise.

Oh, and about 25% of the freight companies in the US use the Fitch system in their semis. Can't argue with that, so please don't.

 

[unity]

I got a 10% increase in mileage in my Mark and H2...much higher than statistical noise.

Oh, and about 25% of the freight companies in the US use the Fitch system in their semis. Can't argue with that, so please don't.

Im still doing research on this one. The ONLY people who say this one does not work have never tried one. Like I said, I am usually a sceptic but this looks like one that works.

But some math has to be done. If the thing costs X number of dollars and you gain about 4mpg, how long would it be until its paid for and really saving anything?

 

[logres]

Im still doing research on this one. The ONLY people who say this one does not work have never tried one. Like I said, I am usually a sceptic but this looks like one that works.

But some math has to be done. If the thing costs X number of dollars and you gain about 4mpg, how long would it be until its paid for and really saving anything?

Well, right now I spend about $75 a month on fuel. 10% of that is $7.50. The Fitch costs $300, so looks like it pays back in about 40 months.

Less if gas cost continues to rise...