Do NOT do it... It will NOT increase the sound quality, give you more bass or anything else for that matter. I hooked up a new Infinity Kappa 5x7 speaker to my old factory amp... just to see if that is going to do anything since i was contemplating something like that. It works but it sounds weaker than the factory speakers. I will give out an update once my AMP comes in...
For anyone who wants to swap out stock speakers for new ones.
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RE: For anyone who wants to swap out stock speakers for new ones.
Of course it will sound bad, you're giving full range speakers only the midbass frequencies.
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Of course it will sound bad, you're giving full range speakers only the midbass frequencies.
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RE: For anyone who wants to swap out stock speakers for new ones.
sweet!
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sweet!
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RE: For anyone who wants to swap out stock speakers for new ones.
Is there any reason to have an amp at all? If the HU kicks out, say, 55x4 can you wire directly from there? Or is it better to use the rca > amp > speakers method?
Is there any reason to have an amp at all? If the HU kicks out, say, 55x4 can you wire directly from there? Or is it better to use the rca > amp > speakers method?
RE: For anyone who wants to swap out stock speakers for new ones.
55x4 is a max number. The headunit will pump out 20 watts rms per speaker at best. The amp can do 50 75 or 100 or 150 depending on what kind you get. Any speaker that can handle more than 50w rms will sound better with an amp.
55x4 is a max number. The headunit will pump out 20 watts rms per speaker at best. The amp can do 50 75 or 100 or 150 depending on what kind you get. Any speaker that can handle more than 50w rms will sound better with an amp.
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55x4 is a max number. The headunit will pump out 20 watts rms per speaker at best. The amp can do 50 75 or 100 or 150 depending on what kind you get. Any speaker that can handle more than 50w rms will sound better with an amp.
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I agree. Speakers will not put out the specd frequency response until they hit at least 15% of there maximum power output.
BTW, I had those exact same Infiniti Kappa speakers in my last 93. They sounded pretty good, but I had to use a 1200 watt RF amp just to hear them on the freeway with the windows open. This was mostly due to the fact that I had to make some sacrifices on frequency response. They did not produce enough high end or bass.
What I plan on doing this time around is to buy speakers that match both the power rating and frequency response of the original speakers. This should improve the sound quality while maintaining the acoustic design spec.
One more item most people overlook: speaker magnet weight. All things being equal, a heavier speaker magnet will produce a higher quality sound, especially at the lower frequencies. I used to have some 6x9 speakers in my 85 T-Bird that had a 160 oz magnet - 10 pounds! The magnet was bigger than the speaker. I installed them without a box (free-air) and it sounded better than some of my friends enclosed subwoofer systems. The huge magnets gave a much better feel.
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55x4 is a max number. The headunit will pump out 20 watts rms per speaker at best. The amp can do 50 75 or 100 or 150 depending on what kind you get. Any speaker that can handle more than 50w rms will sound better with an amp.
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I agree. Speakers will not put out the specd frequency response until they hit at least 15% of there maximum power output.
BTW, I had those exact same Infiniti Kappa speakers in my last 93. They sounded pretty good, but I had to use a 1200 watt RF amp just to hear them on the freeway with the windows open. This was mostly due to the fact that I had to make some sacrifices on frequency response. They did not produce enough high end or bass.
What I plan on doing this time around is to buy speakers that match both the power rating and frequency response of the original speakers. This should improve the sound quality while maintaining the acoustic design spec.
One more item most people overlook: speaker magnet weight. All things being equal, a heavier speaker magnet will produce a higher quality sound, especially at the lower frequencies. I used to have some 6x9 speakers in my 85 T-Bird that had a 160 oz magnet - 10 pounds! The magnet was bigger than the speaker. I installed them without a box (free-air) and it sounded better than some of my friends enclosed subwoofer systems. The huge magnets gave a much better feel.
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RE: For anyone who wants to swap out stock speakers for new ones.
Logres, Speaker aize has nothing to do with sound quality. Many of the world's finest speakers have smaller magnets. There are many different types of magents, some will give you a better BL but with a smaller size.
By saying you are buying speakers with the same power rating ass original, are you saying you will use the same amp? Stock speakers can really only handle about 35-50 watts before sounding like crap. If you want to improve Sound Quality, you have to buy better speakers and working on aiming them properly for a better sound stage. And make sure you give them as much power as you can afford. My rainbows are "rated" at 100 watts, but I was giving each side 250 watts, and they never had a problem. And good god they sounded good doing it to.
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Logres, Speaker aize has nothing to do with sound quality. Many of the world's finest speakers have smaller magnets. There are many different types of magents, some will give you a better BL but with a smaller size.
By saying you are buying speakers with the same power rating ass original, are you saying you will use the same amp? Stock speakers can really only handle about 35-50 watts before sounding like crap. If you want to improve Sound Quality, you have to buy better speakers and working on aiming them properly for a better sound stage. And make sure you give them as much power as you can afford. My rainbows are "rated" at 100 watts, but I was giving each side 250 watts, and they never had a problem. And good god they sounded good doing it to.
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Logres, Speaker aize has nothing to do with sound quality. Many of the world's finest speakers have smaller magnets. There are many different types of magents, some will give you a better BL but with a smaller size. By saying you are buying speakers with the same power rating ass original, are you saying you will use the same amp? djhttp://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/602000-602999/602027_21.jpg^^^^^^My 3 Babies!!!^^^^^^
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One of the reasons I said "all things being equal" was to cover the fact that not all magnets are made of the same stuff. You are right, a 50 oz Molybdenum (?) magnet will probably be more powerful than a 75 oz standard ferro magnet.
I want to see if I can get away with using the same amp...because I'm lazy. All I want is to be able to hear the music on the freeway with my windows open, like I can already with my 96. But seeing as how the speakers are now 8 years old, it's time to replace them. I'm pretty sure the cones and rubber parts are worn out.
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Logres, Speaker aize has nothing to do with sound quality. Many of the world's finest speakers have smaller magnets. There are many different types of magents, some will give you a better BL but with a smaller size. By saying you are buying speakers with the same power rating ass original, are you saying you will use the same amp? djhttp://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/602000-602999/602027_21.jpg^^^^^^My 3 Babies!!!^^^^^^
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One of the reasons I said "all things being equal" was to cover the fact that not all magnets are made of the same stuff. You are right, a 50 oz Molybdenum (?) magnet will probably be more powerful than a 75 oz standard ferro magnet.
I want to see if I can get away with using the same amp...because I'm lazy. All I want is to be able to hear the music on the freeway with my windows open, like I can already with my 96. But seeing as how the speakers are now 8 years old, it's time to replace them. I'm pretty sure the cones and rubber parts are worn out.
RE: For anyone who wants to swap out stock speakers for new ones.
the stronger magent still will do nothing think of the magnet as what the speaker is pushing off of as long as the orignal is sized properly it will make no diffence in going to a bigger magnet its like jumping off of a 300 lbs pile of dirt vs jumping off of a 500 lbs pile of dirt you still jump the same
the stronger magent still will do nothing think of the magnet as what the speaker is pushing off of as long as the orignal is sized properly it will make no diffence in going to a bigger magnet its like jumping off of a 300 lbs pile of dirt vs jumping off of a 500 lbs pile of dirt you still jump the same