New 1998 Mark VIII for only $43k! 
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Mad1stGen
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New 1998 Mark VIII for only $43k!
I'd trade my CE for that one, but it would leave me with me with no vette. Not happening
It's a badass deal, especially in 2010 dollars. Of course IMO. Not that it counts.
I'd trade my CE for that one, but it would leave me with me with no vette. Not happening
It's a badass deal, especially in 2010 dollars. Of course IMO. Not that it counts.
It's a lousy deal. No warranty, and good luck finding certain parts.
A fantastic 2010 BMW with 91 miles can be had for the same money.
And also remember that all plastic and rubber parts age no matter how much mileage is on the car. The tires, air bags/springs, and suspension bushings are definitely done.
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Obviously you're missing the point of being on a mark viii message board within a lincoln club.
I have the 2010 cars you speak of, but for some reason there is always a certain 97-98 model in my garage. Again IMO.
The guy selling it is a local collector here, I know he'd take low $30s for this car.
I have the 2010 cars you speak of, but for some reason there is always a certain 97-98 model in my garage. Again IMO.
The guy selling it is a local collector here, I know he'd take low $30s for this car.
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Thanks for the thinly disguised insult.
My point was that for $43k, you could purchase 5 pristine Mark VIII's of any year. A TRUE Mark VIII fan (who is not legally insane) could conceivably go for that deal.
The fact that he is selling a 'new' car with worn out springs, bushings and tires tells me he is not completely honest...or just plain ignorant about cars.
It would also explain a lot about anyone who would desire to drop 'new' car money without inquiring as to the condition of the rubber components.
BlackIceLSC
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lol @ Logres who obviously didn't read the auction description.
anyway...I love the molded covers to protect the plastic.
BTW, 5 cases of wine for the price of ONE collectible bottle doesn't make the 5 cases better wine.
there's a fine line between 'enthusiast' and 'collector'.
There's also a THICK line between someone who has $43k as spare change and someone who can afford to spend $43k on ONE car.
anyway...I love the molded covers to protect the plastic.
BTW, 5 cases of wine for the price of ONE collectible bottle doesn't make the 5 cases better wine.
there's a fine line between 'enthusiast' and 'collector'.
There's also a THICK line between someone who has $43k as spare change and someone who can afford to spend $43k on ONE car.
Stick it in your ear...I read the description.
What's with all you folks bashing me? Stored rubber tires will still go bad over time, just like milk or eggs. I guess you missed the news report on tire dealers selling old tires. Dealers are supposed to take tires off the racks when they reach six years old, but since most of the public is ignorant (including you), they left tires that were ten years old up there. When the reporter called them on it, they took the tires off and disposed of them. In case your interested, the tire date of manufacture is stamped on the inside sidewall in wwyy format...ie 3607 would mean 36th week of 2007.
And let me guess...the guy stored the suspension bushings and air springs in special storage as well?
When you folks consult with someone with an IQ over 80, you'll learn all about this. Until then, jump off a cliff.
As for your silly collector vs. enthusiant statement, I can afford to get an Aston Martin, but I bought my $6000 (in 2004) 96 Mark VIII because to me it's the slickest thing on the planet. And it takes little cash to make it faster than most Aston Martins.
Check out this site, which says all tires over 6 years old should be tossed, including the spare:
http://www.aa1car.com/library/tire_expire.htm
How do you like those apples?
You can apologize anytime.
BlackIceLSC
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wow. someone needs to go change his diaper.
Me...apologize? to you?
I beg to differ...you were the one throwing insults out because your feelings got hurt.
I cannot be held responsible for your feelings.
I am fully aware of tire shelf life. Most car owners are.
But the fact that a "collectible" is pretty much exempt from 'safety considerations' simply due to the common lure of "originality" more-so than "practicality"
But those with common sense already knew that. Sorry you didnt.
man...chill out. You don't have to isnult folks just because they got a little chuckle out of your reply.
But the day I admit my ignorance in the automotive world compared to your "vast knowledge" is a day I'll not soon forget.
just take it down a notch pal. I actually did laugh out loud AT you.
If that bothers you, well then that's your problem.
BTW, if you ever want to learn a few things about tires, shoot me an email. I probably forgot more than most will ever know. But thanks for explaining it to me in terms the norm would comprehend.
anyway, back to the subject at hand(leaving planet insultus by logres) and returning to the subject at hand, I do find it odd that so many high-dollar collectible cars started out as nothing special, and when kept ALL ORIGINAL seemingly gain in value FASTER than some "not original" specialty cars do. i.e. a 1968 Mustang California Special in ALL ORIGINAL condition with fewer than 240 miles on it was able to fetch more money than a 1969 Boss 302 "Alcazar restored" Mustang. Why? Who knows....that day the collectors were looking for examples of originality, not translations of original restorations. I believe a CE Mark VIII falls in to this category. While not a "performance model" or a "extremely limited production model"(fewer than 500 built) and even though it is named "Collector's Edition", an ALL ORIGINAL, UN-RESTORED, UN-MODIFIED, FEWER THAN 100 MILES example will invite a buyer who could give a rat's ass about what you posted concerning bushings, tire shelf life, etc.
The Mark VIII, while special to us, is just a car to many. Most collectors do not forecast them as being "sought after" in the near future, some may wish to obtain a "as new" example for their own purpose of originality. Who knows, in the long run, what was once just a 'car' may stand as an example of what great luxury sport coupes used to be like, and a extremely low-mile, all original down to the TIRES copy will be more valuable than a low-production number, clean, restored version might be.
So pull up on the reins, dismount that high horse, and realize that a true car enthusiast would already know the obvious facts that you so insultingly pointed out.
But thanks for trying to teach us.
If you want to gain some valuable information about how some original cars have become more valuable than restored cars, GOOGLE is your friend.
EDIT: just curious "Sir trivial knowledge", what is the production date on your car's spare? Know where to look? Is it over 6 years old? Better be careful son.
Me...apologize? to you?
I beg to differ...you were the one throwing insults out because your feelings got hurt.
I cannot be held responsible for your feelings.
I am fully aware of tire shelf life. Most car owners are.
But the fact that a "collectible" is pretty much exempt from 'safety considerations' simply due to the common lure of "originality" more-so than "practicality"
But those with common sense already knew that. Sorry you didnt.
man...chill out. You don't have to isnult folks just because they got a little chuckle out of your reply.
But the day I admit my ignorance in the automotive world compared to your "vast knowledge" is a day I'll not soon forget.
just take it down a notch pal. I actually did laugh out loud AT you.
If that bothers you, well then that's your problem.
BTW, if you ever want to learn a few things about tires, shoot me an email. I probably forgot more than most will ever know. But thanks for explaining it to me in terms the norm would comprehend.
anyway, back to the subject at hand(leaving planet insultus by logres) and returning to the subject at hand, I do find it odd that so many high-dollar collectible cars started out as nothing special, and when kept ALL ORIGINAL seemingly gain in value FASTER than some "not original" specialty cars do. i.e. a 1968 Mustang California Special in ALL ORIGINAL condition with fewer than 240 miles on it was able to fetch more money than a 1969 Boss 302 "Alcazar restored" Mustang. Why? Who knows....that day the collectors were looking for examples of originality, not translations of original restorations. I believe a CE Mark VIII falls in to this category. While not a "performance model" or a "extremely limited production model"(fewer than 500 built) and even though it is named "Collector's Edition", an ALL ORIGINAL, UN-RESTORED, UN-MODIFIED, FEWER THAN 100 MILES example will invite a buyer who could give a rat's ass about what you posted concerning bushings, tire shelf life, etc.
The Mark VIII, while special to us, is just a car to many. Most collectors do not forecast them as being "sought after" in the near future, some may wish to obtain a "as new" example for their own purpose of originality. Who knows, in the long run, what was once just a 'car' may stand as an example of what great luxury sport coupes used to be like, and a extremely low-mile, all original down to the TIRES copy will be more valuable than a low-production number, clean, restored version might be.
So pull up on the reins, dismount that high horse, and realize that a true car enthusiast would already know the obvious facts that you so insultingly pointed out.
But thanks for trying to teach us.
If you want to gain some valuable information about how some original cars have become more valuable than restored cars, GOOGLE is your friend.
EDIT: just curious "Sir trivial knowledge", what is the production date on your car's spare? Know where to look? Is it over 6 years old? Better be careful son.
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BadSax
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I would like to state for the record that I did not know that...
I know... this is a huge shock... take a moment and pick your collective jaws back up off the floor...
I personally like to drive on tires until they fail or I notice that the tread has turned from rubber into some sort of combination of metal and canvas (or whatever tires are made out of)
BTW, this thread has been highly entertaining...
BlackIceLSC
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I could go back and edit that and re-word it. But for the record, I did write *most*, not *all*.
lol
perhaps I should have written "many" .
sorry ; )
and to answer the space-saver spare MPH question, YES you should not exceed the posted maximum speed stamped/molded in to the tire' sidewall. The tire is designed to safely remove you from the immediate situation, and is also stamped TEMPORARY SPARE because it is not intended to be used for anything other than moving the vehicle to the nearest safe location for repair.
the maximum posted speed is directly relevant to heat dissipation. Furthermore, a space-saver spare is not to be used on any other vehicle on which it came originally equipped.-again, relative to heat dissipation.
lol
perhaps I should have written "many" .
sorry ; )
and to answer the space-saver spare MPH question, YES you should not exceed the posted maximum speed stamped/molded in to the tire' sidewall. The tire is designed to safely remove you from the immediate situation, and is also stamped TEMPORARY SPARE because it is not intended to be used for anything other than moving the vehicle to the nearest safe location for repair.
the maximum posted speed is directly relevant to heat dissipation. Furthermore, a space-saver spare is not to be used on any other vehicle on which it came originally equipped.-again, relative to heat dissipation.
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BadSax
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I think we are all well aware that I rarely fit into the category of "most"...
EDIT: Example
When "most" people go to Carlisle, they manage to make it to the showfield before, let's say, noon...
and when those "most" people arrive before noon, they don't receive a round of applause from the tent as they drive by...
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jamies98lsc
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i'd love to part it out, most of it is mint lol!
BlackIceLSC
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You know, I shouldn't have written a whole long reply to logres.
I learned years ago to never have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
But I will apologize to the readers who had to be subjected to my rant after he personally insulted me.
But hey...it's the internet...it's not the first time. Sorry folks.
I learned years ago to never have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
But I will apologize to the readers who had to be subjected to my rant after he personally insulted me.
But hey...it's the internet...it's not the first time. Sorry folks.
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