Initial Tork Tech results in a Panther platform

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Brad A (twistngo) from the CVN site had brought his 00 P71 Crown Vic to me for the initial tuning. This was the first install attempt of this particular supercharger system in any Panther platform. Tork Tech Brad has posted his install procedures in another thread so if you want particulars on the actual install look here. Tork Tech install thread This supercharger can also be made to work in the Lincoln Town Car as to why I’m posting the results here. The battery must be relocated to the trunk.

I had to work this between the clean up and repairs from the storm damage at the shop besides reconstruction so I wasn’t able to devote all the time I wanted to this project. I was able to go over several areas to ensure installation was safe, mechanics and electrical. I did have a few surprised but all in all it was pretty good install.

I didn’t like the idea of having an open element air filter stuck in hot engine compartment even if the setup was inner cooled. So I built a real CAI for this setup that shouldn’t be to hard to reproduce since I made some templates. The filter is now inside the fender and completely enclosed from any water/dirt spray from off the front tire and road. It gets it’s fresh air supply from the opening at the bumper. With that tackled and all the induction air leaks taken care of it was on to some of the electrical problems.

You can not use the stock alt. discharge cable, it’s just too short. If you do the only routing is dangerously close to one of the idler pulleys to which I found will rub and cut through the cable. Luckily this was one of the first things I spotted when Brad dropped it off. Any further run time and it would have been a melt down.

The location of the coolant tank hinders the effectiveness of the coolant system since it sits too low to allow the system to be fully filled. So what you end up with is a large pocket of air so that the Tstat never actually senses coolant temp. In turn the actual coolant temp ends up being much hotter before the Tstat opens. This can be taken care of by installing one of the older style tanks over on the passenger’s side fender and making the tank the high point like it should be. With us Town Car owners, I’ll have to look at how to approach this since our windshield washer is taking that location. It shouldn’t be too difficult to come up with a solution though.

There were a few other changes that needed to be done but I will be taking those up with the manufacture. I’m still working out the details on this and will be offering the kits here in the near future. They are very interested in marketing a kit that will work in the Panther platform. And now that AED is out of business there really is no direct bolt in kit for these anymore.

As for the dyno results; our main concern for now was a safe tune so that Brad could break the engine in. This engine had next to zero miles the freshly built short block. So the first concern was getting the a/f back to a safe ratio. Someone had lowered the car lift for the dyno down onto the wide band cable and sensor crushing it prior to me using it. The damage was bad enough that it required all new parts. So I ended up using my portable wide band for the a/f and why you don’t see it on the graph. The a/f was kept at 11.6 – 12.0 throughout. After the break in and the new parts are installed for the wide band on the dyno I will tighten up the curve.
Now Brad had the heads cleaned up slightly and they removed the swirl damn in the combustion chambers. This can be seen in the torque curve at the 2000 rpm range. These swirl damns promote low end torque so removing them you give up some low end for increased top end flow. I’ve addressed this already and once it’s back on the dyno I can more thoroughly evaluate it. Some would think there was a centrifugal SC installed if they weren’t told, they leave the same signature.
This was the base kit and so boost level is advertised at 9 psi. The most seen was 8 in this setup. But remember boost is basically a measurement of restriction. With the heads being ported your boost level will decrease.
Timing for now was kept down also since we wanted something conservative for the break in. The fuel was 93 pump gas, no additives so I could have put more timing in. The other thought was with his coolant system not up to specs why chance it.
If you take a look at the print out you will see the shop was 106 degrees. Even with 3 fans running we couldn’t get the place cooled down under 104. With that high of ambient temps the inner cooled air was 144. I have a plan on this also if Brad allows me to make some changes. Engine coolant temp I was amazed at stayed right around 180. But I think this was more due to the fact that since the coolant system wasn’t fully filled and there was no way to fill it completely with the tank being installed too low I didn't allow the engine to idle very long. Start it, make a pull and shut it off. So what I did in the mean time was used a thermal coupling on the lower lines and monitored it that way to be safe besides the data logging.

All in all with all the obstacles I think the setup performed very well.
 
Sweet. If gas prices were any lower I'd trick out the daily driver 98 Crown Vic that I got... This looks like a very promising kit!
 
Yeah I know what you mean about gas prices. I was able to fill up this morning just as they raised the price almost 38 cents. All over a simple hurricane.

I'm looking at the possibility of putting one of these on my 98 Town Car. With a conservative tune and staying out of the boost there shouldn't be that much difference in fuel mileage.
 
I would think closing that rear end is a must with these blowers. 390WHP? I mean that is insane. That has got to be the highest increase in HP over stock from any blower that I have seen.

They are at like 180-200 stock right? I wish we had a kit like that for the Mark VIIIs back in the day.
 
I would think closing that rear end is a must with these blowers. 390WHP? I mean that is insane. That has got to be the highest increase in HP over stock from any blower that I have seen.

They are at like 180-200 stock right? I wish we had a kit like that for the Mark VIIIs back in the day.

Not sure what you mean by closing the rear end. This car had a 5 speed swap so lets figure in about a 20% drive train loss with an auto. Yeah that's a lot, it's more than likely much less since it's not IRS like our Marks. That puts the 380 at 425 fwhp when you figure 12% for the manual. Now typically these cars put out about 150 - 160 stock, a few almost making 170. This car was rated at 215 fwhp. But then my Town Car was rated at 225 fwhp and it only made 147 rwhp stock.

The drive train loss with the manual is a somewhere around 12% I think. So that engine either way made some power for just ported PI heads and the blower. His pistons were forged dished keeping the compression at the stock 9.1. Using the 20% at 425 fwhp gives you about 340 rwhp

Yes that is a big increase in power any way you look at it, well in the 200 hp range. Just wait until it returns for more boost and an aggressive tune.
 
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Very sweet keep us posted. By closing the rear end I meant to say add traction lock or the likes. My crown vic does all kinds of funny things because it has an open diff. I think the cop models have TL though.
 
Very sweet keep us posted. By closing the rear end I meant to say add traction lock or the likes. My crown vic does all kinds of funny things because it has an open diff. I think the cop models have TL though.

Yes, this one had 3.73s and a Track Loc. The rear kept trying to pass the front. Even with sticky 265s first was just wheels spin and hop if you went more than half throttle. 2nd gear at about 2600 was about the same. But it was so much fun. He's looking into some lower control arms and strengthen the supports and much stickier tires. Last I talked with him he was still learning to drive it with the new power. The car is a solid 12 second the way it is now.
 
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