NEON TAIL LAMP 97/98

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Noticed that my neon lamp was sticking out farther on the passenger's side than the drivers side where it is mounted onto the trunk lid. Decided to take the lamp assembly off to see why it wasn't laying flush all the way across. I found out that several screws that are set into the rear housing of the lamp assembly were broken loose. Also discovered that the factory pre-drilled holes in the lid were not drilled properly for the screws.
I have a real good fix for this if there isn't one already in the archives. Searched the other site and couldn't find anything related to this problem. I'd be happy to post the fix if anyone is interested. Tks! .... :7
 
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Well, isn't that interesting? It just so happens that on Saturday, quite a few of us who were at the Midwest Mini-meet noticed the same thing on our cars! Please, post the fix, that'd be appreciated. :)
 
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I'd definitely be interested in a fix. I can't stand it because it doesn't look like the lines of the car run smoothly. My tail lamp looks like it sticks out because the lid was shifted so I tried adjusting it with no luck. I assumed my car was in an accident before I bought it. Sharon, what ever happened with the suspension drop? Did everything work out OK?

David O'Donnell
'97 Mark VIII LSC "Maxine"
'91 Mark VII BB "Monica"
'67 Thunderbird "Molly"
 
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David, the suspension drop worked great as far as I know, but I'm riding with my air ride switch off til the kid can replace a part that he had to take off my car and use on Thad's. :)
 
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O.K. Sharon and others............
Subscribe to this topic and I will post the fix in an easy to understand manner. Give me a couple of days or so to work out the format and details. It's not very difficult to do and your neon lamp will be flush with the trunk lid and look GREAT!
I also suspected that my car may have been hit in the rear, but after examination it appears that the factory overtightened the nuts that secure the plastic housing on the rear side of the lamp assembly, therefore causing the bolts that are secured to the housing to be overstressed, causing them to break loose. Also a few of the holes where the bolts come through the trunk lid were not drilled properly. Stay tuned...............
 
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Hey Jack,

What's going on with this? I just installed a brand new neon light on my car and it's got the same problem. The upper right side sticks out. I don't remember the old one being that way.

Also, the whole lamp seems to bulge out in the middle. It causes a gap between the bottom rubber strip and the trunk lid. No one else will probably notice it, but looks like crap to me.

I think part of the problem is that foam gasket around the ballast. I noticed it was about half an inch thick, whereas the old one was much thinner. I tightened the nuts down as much as I dared, but that gasket wants to push the light away from the car. And since those screws are just attached to the light housing with plastic clamps, I'm not to comfortable tightening them any further.

If you've got some way to make those screws stronger or fix broken ones, that'd be fantastic. My old one has broken clips on two of them (both along the outside edge). I was planning on cutting the housing open to see if I could refurbish it, but if the screws are broke there's no use bothering.

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Is your solution to move the ballast into the trunk somewhere? I'm thinking that may be the best fix.

On another note, I noticed all the screws have a rubber substance around them which has dried. I put mine back on without anything, but it'd be a good idea to find something to seal them back up.
 
RE: NEON TAIL LAMP 97/98

Hi Gang!

Sorry for the delay in providing the fix info, but my computer was giving me major problems and I finally got everything worked out.
NOTE: Before starting this project, read through below to see
what tools or supplies you'll need before beginning.
Following is the info for the Neon Tail Lamp fix:
1. Remove plastic push-in retainers on the underside of the
trunk lid that secure cosmetic cover (There is a tool
that removes them very effectively that is available from NAPA
parts for about $8.00)
2. Remove the cosmetic cover by sliding it down from the
latch and then up and out of the lower trunk lid supports.
This cover is a little fragile, so be careful and don't use
brute force when removing it.
3. Disconnect wiring harness to tail lamp and remove the ground
wire. The harness may also have a push-in retainer that
you may also have to remove.
4. Remove the two 7/16" nuts (black) and the push-in retainer
that hold the plastic strip on the left outside edge of the
trunk lid. Remove the strip by sliding it out of the trunk
lid. Do the same procedure on the right side of the trunk lid.
5. Remove the recessed (requires short socket extension) 7/16"
nuts that secure the tail-lamp to the trunk lip. Holes are
cut out in the trunk lid, and if you stick a finger in the
hole you will be able to feel where these nuts are. If
possible, use a magnetic socket or stick a small piece of
of masking tape in the socket to keep the nut from falling
down between the sheet metal layers of the trunk lid after it
is completely unscrewed.
6. Slowly and carefully remove the lamp assembly out of the
trunk lid and place it on a soft surface so as not to scratch
the lens.
7. Check all of the retaining screws for tightness where they
slide into the plastic retainers which are actually part of
the rear of the lamp housing.
8. Close the trunk lid. Take the lamp assembly and place it
partially into the trunk lip. "Eye-Ball" the holes where
the screws go through the trunk lip. Make note of what
adjustments need to be made to each screw; I.E>-up, down,
left or right for each screw to pass through the trunk lid
without binding. Also make sure that the lamp is centered
within the trunk lip for proper alignment.
9. Ream the holes in the trunk lip to allow each of the screws
to pass through without binding.
NOTE: The rectangular cut-out for the ballast unit in my
case was cut out properly at the factory. The holes for the
screws were not placed properly for the screws to line up.
Also, the foam gasket around the ballast unit should be
pliable enough to squeeze in when the lamp assembly is re-
installed and tightened at the end of this modification.
10. After ensuring everything is lined up properly, make up a
mixture of "J.B. Weld" (a half tube of hardener and glue
combined and mixed well). Apply with a tongue depresser or
other kind of tool to every screw where it mounts to the
rear housing of the tail lamp. Use a generous amount, but do
not let the mixture get higher than the base of the screw.
After this stuff sets (approx. 15 hours) it will be
tougher than the lamp assembly itself.
11. Dab a little bit of black silicone sealer at the base of
each screw and reassemble reversing procedures 1 though 6
above. "DO NOT" overtighten the 7/16" nuts! Just enough
to make them snug. Start from the center and work outward.
Observe the lamp assembly while tightening to check it's
relation to the trunk lid to ensure an even appearance.

This procedure worked out real good with my Mark and hope that it's a helper to other Mark owner's. ....Jack....

:)
 
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Addendum to the fix:

Steps 5 and 8; lip should read lid.
Step 9; A graduated drill bit will work. I used an Xcelite
graduated reaming tool. A Dremel tool would also work if a
proper accessory for reaming is available.
If your ballast is not going easily through the cut-out in
the trunk lid, it's most likely caused by the screws not lining
up properly with the factory provided holes in the trunk lid
causing it to be off-center and binding.
Also, if any of the plastic screw retainers (which are actually
part of the black rear housing of the lamp assembly) are broken,
the J.B. Weld fix will work great and be stronger than than it
was originally. ....Jack....
 
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If anybody has any questions concerning this fix, please feel free to reply on this forum or e-mail me. :)
 
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