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I found a new problem with the mark.
sometimes when accelarate hard around 2800 rpm's the motor seems to cut fuel or spark, then when it drops to about 2400 rpm's it comes back on with no more problem's.

I think it might be a fuel pick up problem. I do have about a 1/4 tank of fuel in there.
I am going to add fuel and check it out.
any other Ideas.
 
Sounds like you have a flat spot/dead spot. Time to pull codes.....and I bet a TPS code pops up.
 
Certain sensors or actuators don't produce a hard code so you don't get a CEL. But when you check for the codes they will show up on the scanner. This is especially problematic with the older EEC IV, Gen 1s. There are some still in the Gen 2s that do the same thing. Also some of these faults work on a timer system, they have to not meet the required settings a number of times before the code or CEL are set off.
 
+1 what Lonnie said. Most codes require 3+ failures to throw a light, unless its a Hard Code (i.e. misfire).
 
Fuel is definitely something worth considering. Not everybody has the tools to do this, but I'd suggest running a pressure and volume test on your fuel from the schrader valve on the fuel rail. If you don't have them, they're not expensive to buy. The little fitting should only be a few bucks. The gauge is a little more. This is usually the best and most accurate way to determine if you're getting fuel. I also agree with the fuel filter replacement idea. Even if you're getting the right amount of fuel, they need to be replaced regularly just like everything else.

As far as sensors go, it's not always about check engine lights. First off, a scan tool is only telling you what the computer thinks it's seeing, not what the sensor is actually displaying. A short or a faulty PCM can throw you off big time. It's rare, but it happens. Digital oscilloscopes aren't cheap by any means, but if you can get your hands on one, they're the best way to test a sensor. Also, just remember that a check engine light only comes on because specific enabling criteria is met. I once had to replace a TPS sensor on a similar drivability problem. The PCM showed no codes, but the sensor was only operating between 0 and 1 volt. Since TPS sensors (most of them, at least) work on a 0-5v scale, no codes were registered for being out of limits, so nothing came up.

But anyway, now that I've written a book for you, I'll get to the point. Establish that you have fuel, then spark. What year is your Mark? Do you have wires or coil-on-plug? When was the last time you did an ignition tune-up? If you have good fuel and spark, then start looking at sensors. If you have a scan tool and a friend, take the car out for a drive and monitor the data. Pay special attention to your MAF. Remember that MAF/MAP sensors are given top priority for fuel delivery... And you said that this problem happens when you accelerate hard? Your MAF SHOULD reach it's limit (or close to it) when you're holding the pedal WOT. If it's not (let's say it's a similar problem to that TPS I encountered earlier, for example), then your computer may think that your engine isn't under heavy load when it actually is, so it's being starved.

Just a thought, though. Let us know what happens and good luck.
 
Hi

I have the same kind of problem, but at low rpm. around 1,200 1,300 I have a very short cut off of the engine, but if I open more, the engine goes to 2,300 2,400 without any problem. The only problem if the speed too much high foir french roads.
I think to an ignition problem( it is a 95 LSC) because the age.
What do you think?
Do you know a vendor who send overseas? all I have found on the net does'nt

thankyou
 
If you need parts, send me a PM and I'll be happy to try to help you.

Have you tried turning off OD for higher engine rpms?
 
Thank you

The problem has disapered, may be dirty gas?

I can't switch off the OD, I think a wire is cut

sincerely


Its probably broken down by the shifter handle. Very common problem....I'd recommend fixing it so it doesn't short out! Do a search.
 
I found a new problem with the mark.
sometimes when accelarate hard around 2800 rpm's the motor seems to cut fuel or spark, then when it drops to about 2400 rpm's it comes back on with no more problem's.

I think it might be a fuel pick up problem. I do have about a 1/4 tank of fuel in there.
I am going to add fuel and check it out.
any other Ideas.
I got it figured out. its a fuel pick up issue. I filled her up and no more problem.
 
Probably got a cracked rubber tube that goes from the fuel pump to the plastic "hat" on the fuel pump housing. Pretty common to deteriorate with age.
 
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