Nightmare # 54: Battery Problems

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My '94 is acting up again, and a lot of things just kept going wrong tonight.

HOW NOT TO DO THINGS:

I leave my lights on accidently after I parked my car. I couldn't have been gone 5 minutes, but when I came back the car wouldn't start. A friendly neighbor gave me a jump but it didn't do any good. This was an ooold battery and it was cooked.

I walk around the corner to Autozone and buy their Duralast battery for $65. I walk home with it and as I am disconnecting the old negative terminal the bolt gets stuck and it strips. I work on it for 30 minutes and finally get it off by hammering it side to side while prying it upward with a screwdriver. Some of the copper wire was exposed, but I paid it no mind and tried to get the bolt off. Apparently I must have broken some of the copper wires from twisting it. The old Batterry also had no strap so it was a bitch to remove.

Now when I hooked up the new battery the car wouldn't start. The lights would come on then off and it wouldn't turn over. I figured that the wire that I broke on the negative terminal was the cause.

I walk back to Autozone and buy a new nagative wire (I didbn't realize that I could just replace the terminal). I come back and realize that I can't get under the car (I'm at my girlfriends apartment).

It is not dark out. I go back to Autozone to buy a jack, some stands and a flashlight. I get back, jack the car up, put the stands under it, slide on the wet ground and realize that I would need to remove the oil filter to replace this entire negative wire. I can't do that.

I call my father and he informs me that I could just replace the terminal. Unfortunately, Autozone is now closed. So...

I take a cab to another Autozone and buy a universal terminal. I get back and replace it and....THE CAR STILL DOESN'T START!! After 4 hours of fiddling and spending about $200! The lights are very dim and I get a click when I turn the key. My hypothesis in that Autozone sold me a bad battery. However, I have to wait until tomorrow to return it and try a new one.

I hope I bought the correct terminal. I don't know what a marine terminal is that everyone on here is talking about. I saw one at Autozone but it had a threaded screw hole where the wire should go in and I didn't see how I would connect that to a stripped wire. Since I wasn't sure if that was the corrrect type, I bought the kind that uses a screw and a washer. I crimped a ring connecter on to the bare wire and connected that to the new terminal. It seems to me that the connection should be good enough to start the car. Unfortunately, it didn't work.

What is the recommended CCA and cranking amps for a battery on our cars?

What else could this be?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Carl
 
RE: Nightmare # 54: Battery Problems

I believe 800 CCA is the recommendation.

You need to charge the battery(even new ones) or find someone who will give you a jump. Connect the jumper cables and wait 15 minutes before attempting to start. But first you need to be sure the terminals are good.

I'm not sure I understand your description of the terminal and connection. Sometimes $20 at Autozone will buy things not on the shelf - like battery terminal installation or emergency jump starts? I would replace both battery terminals.

Good luck.
 
RE: Nightmare # 54: Battery Problems

Thanks. I brought the batery back to Autozone. They tested it, and it turns out that the battery was good.

This confirmed my suspiscions that there was something wrong with the connection. I did a search on here last night and found out that corroson can creep up the wires under the insulation.

I bought a brass battery "clamp down" terminal, while I was at Autozone. I went back to the car, recut the wire, stripped it and noticed a lot of corrosion inside the copper, between the strands. I seperated them and brused them with a steel wire brush. I then connected the other wire and clamped on the new terminal. Thankfully the car started right up.

By the way, what exactly do "marine" battery terminals look like? How exactly would I put them on?

So I should charge a new battery before putting it on?

Thanks again.
 
RE: Nightmare # 54: Battery Problems

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...Thankfully the car started right up.By the way, what exactly do "marine" battery terminals look like? How exactly would I put them on?So I should charge a new battery before putting it on?
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Yay! Sounds like the corrosion gotcha. Get new battery cables soon if it was bad.

Marine terminals is a generic term for the old fashioned lead-type terminals vs. the modern 'tin can' ones. Cable connections can vary from simple clamp-on to large ring terminals to industrial/commercial crimp-on or heavy duty solder-on.

You should always charge any battery prior to installation to prevent early demise of the alternator. Charging will also tell you if the battery is good. You can buy bad batteries(usually a dead cell) and you can buy good batteries that simply need charging.
 
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