This is how me and my boys ride in orlando

going to bigger heavier rims decreases your braking ability, unless you upgrade your brakes to huge rotors and insane calipers. all these guys who put 24+ wheels on stock 11 inch rotors wonder why they cant stop in an accident, because the wheels are so heavy the stock brakes cant do anything except try, and trying isnt always enough.
 
my 22's weigh 30 pounds more then the stock wheels. I have been riding on bigger wheels and tires for a while and never had a problem stopping. My car stops so fast that you will fly forward if your not wearing the seat belt. Sure they say its harder to stop but i haven't had an issue with that. I never lost traction since i put the big wheels on the town car... think about it. I put twice as much rubber on the road, thats two times what you guys may have. When i slam on my brakes to avoid an accident there is no squeal of the tire, it just stops. I am sure it doesn't make sense to most of you guys cause you think too hard into it. I didn't use big wheels to give me traction and better braking. I did it for the look


oh and when i accelerate fast with the town car... it just goes. there is no pussy tire spinning.... it just goes


LOL, you can hate the high rise culture but hating is pointless. It won't get you anywhere

if you want to inform me of something i didn't consider then please do so... my 5 years being a mechanic in the military and 3 plus years working on cars after really didn't teach me everything.

"ignorance is bliss"..... true, but girls who think i'm rich cause i got big wheels are ignorant and "ignorance is easy" when it comes to girls
 
and also... my wheels are only 22's.... i have performance rotors and pads but it didn't help.... it would be wise to upgrade to a bigger caliper and rotor but at my wheel size its not worth it. Thanks for all the input guys.
 
I never lost traction since i put the big wheels on the town car... think about it. I put twice as much rubber on the road, thats two times what you guys may have. When i slam on my brakes to avoid an accident there is no squeal of the tire, it just stops.

Well there is one thing people aren't bringing up that is in your favor. Your tires likely grip a lot better than stock tires. Which is mostly due to rubber compound NOT width. I know it is a strange concept that width doesn't effect grip as much but it doesn't as much as rubber compound on a street car. But you said the incriminating evidence yourself. If your tires are not squealing when you slam on the brakes it means your tires are overpowering your wheels. The combination of increased rotational inertia, increased griping ability of your tires , larger overall wheel and tire diameter, and small stock brakes all adds up to your brakes being completely overpowered.

If you really want some great stopping ability from your car at lest go with some dual piston brakes with 13-14 inch rotors. I couldn't believe the different going from stock mark viii brakes to 13" rotors and cobra brakes. I thought my brakes were pretty good before, but the difference is very nice.

I am sure it doesn't make sense to most of you guys cause you think too hard into it. I didn't use big wheels to give me traction and better braking. I did it for the look

I TOTALLY understand, I have an F250 quad cab that is lifted and has 37's on 20" wheels. I want to upgrade the brakes sometime but the money just hasn't been there. The truck does not stop as well as a stock truck, I can assure you of that. Although the thing helping me is the truck was designed to stop towing a large load, or with weight in the bed of the truck.


oh and when i accelerate fast with the town car... it just goes. there is no pussy tire spinning.... it just goes

Two reasons here, one the increased grip of your tires. It makes a huge difference. Also, with wheels that big and not regearing the car you now have a numerically lower gear ratio. For example if you had 3.08's stock you might have 2.10's now. This lowers the torque multiplication of your drive line. This hurts acceleration. Again, I have the same issue with my truck so I know exactly where you are coming from. The difference is I have a turbo diesel with somewhere in the area of 600 ft-lb of torque so the effect is much less than a gasoline engine.



LOL, you can hate the high rise culture but hating is pointless. It won't get you anywhere

This works both ways man, you can close your ears to some help and insight from other people who are into their cars but just have different taste. I would just rather see someone really understand what is happing with their mods.

if you want to inform me of something i didn't consider then please do so... my 5 years being a mechanic in the military and 3 plus years working on cars after really didn't teach me everything.

Hey I hope I didn't come across as a jerk but I just want to put some reason behind what I'm saying. People are telling you things on this thread but they aren't putting much behind it. It's the same effect as saying "because I said so" which just pisses everyone off. And I'm sure you have learned more than enough with your experience, but there are different people who know different things. It works best if we learn things we don't know from other peolpe who do.

"ignorance is bliss"..... true, but girls who think i'm rich cause i got big wheels are ignorant and "ignorance is easy" when it comes to girls
HAHAH that's a new one, good stuff

:steps off of soap box::
 
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I wasn't "hating on the culture" quite the opposite if you actually READ what I wrote.

With that said, the reason your car "doesnt spin" is because you have so much rotational mass, you would need to be sitting IN and oil slick in order to have those "monster meats" break traction.

You pretty much subtracted about 100+HP from your cars total output.

AND.. just because the girls "THINK" you are rich, what happens when they find out you are not?
 
I'm not big on that particular scene, but to each his own. That town car does look kind of sharp, in a cartoonish sort of way.

there is no set rule on how much rotational inertia a larger wheel adds, or a set factor. The rotational inertia is dependant on the mass and the square of the diameter. I=kmr^2 where k is a constant that varies depending on the shape of the body (or the design of the wheel, as the case may be). The key thing to note is the square on the radius. Double the size of the wheel, the energy required to stop it quadruples, even if the mass remains the same. Keep in mind that the heaviest part of the wheel is the rim, so most of the weight of the wheel is in the worst place as far as inertia goes.

Also consider that as the wheel size goes up, the brakes have less leverage. They can only provide a certain amount of torque, and that equates to less force at the road as the size of the wheel goes up.

If the brakes still have enough power to lock the wheels up, they're fine for normal driving. However you're still putting a significant amount of extra heat energy in them with every stop, and they will fade and wear faster than if the wheel size was smaller. If you don't have enough braking power to lock up the wheels (or at least activate the ABS), consider an upgrade.

Then there's unsprung weight, which affects ride and handling. As unsprung weight goes up, forces on suspension components go up also. So larger wheels (whether the car is lifted or slammed) increase stopping distances, shorten the life of the suspension components, and slow the acceleration of the vehicle.

Also consider that the higher you are off the ground, the more weight transfer you get to the front axle under braking. So your rear brakes can't do as much as they were designed to, because the traction isn't there anymore. This puts even more stress on your front brakes. But if you're not locking up the rear brakes, don't worry about it. Also, I presume that car has ABS, so that should save your bacon of the weight transfer issue comes into play.
 
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good input from everyone. That town car is like a big toy to me. My last truck was a chevy s-10 with 24's on it and that thing looked like a roller skate. LOL I was going for the big wheel look but i didn't want to go too big on the town car, my father still drives the car when he comes to town.

oh, i am far from rich... the last thing i would do with my money is spend it on a girl. I have a daughter full time and she requires alot of my time and money.... i'm cool with just her. Back in the day i picked up alot of girls just by using my vehicles. Girls assume you have money when your stereo and wheels cost more then their car LOL

i'm not rich though :) just well off

Thanks again guys for the input. I really see some educated folks on this board and thats a sigh of relief for me since i been all over this internet looking for better forums to mingle on.

Have a good day everyone!!! Happy Holidays!!!
 
I really don't care for lifts . But I agree the white town car looks good !!
We all take pride in our rides At least we have the choice for now!!
 
We got a few of then here in the north east as well

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Most have a lot of deer there.
 
I can honestly say that if any of those cars caught fire and went up in flames in front of me I wouldn't give a squirt of piss to put it out. :eek:

if my car was on fire i would rather you not piss on it either.... thats like adding insult to injury. Good luck putting out fires with your little fire hose


My white town car is fun to drive and gets alot of attention.... some people like and most hate, i would hate too.... its just funny to see how much everyone judges us based on appearance. That car has a thug look to it and the cops treat accordingly. Also i never get cut-off in that car. Like i said before.... any attention on the road is good attention.
 
I can't believe how many people's parents didn't tell them the old: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."

So that's not my thing, but really, anyone who enjoys cars and does it for the love of it is no different from most of us here.

I still remember the Caddy that showed up to the Mark VIII show in Port Clinton years ago - funny how we all ran over to see his car with the hydraulics and wild sound system. Nothing like our cars, but that's what made it interesting to see and to talk to the owner.
 
I can't believe how many people's parents didn't tell them the old: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."

So that's not my thing, but really, anyone who enjoys cars and does it for the love of it is no different from most of us here.

I still remember the Caddy that showed up to the Mark VIII show in Port Clinton years ago - funny how we all ran over to see his car with the hydraulics and wild sound system. Nothing like our cars, but that's what made it interesting to see and to talk to the owner.


Well said...
 
I can't believe how many people's parents didn't tell them the old: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."

So that's not my thing, but really, anyone who enjoys cars and does it for the love of it is no different from most of us here.

I still remember the Caddy that showed up to the Mark VIII show in Port Clinton years ago - funny how we all ran over to see his car with the hydraulics and wild sound system. Nothing like our cars, but that's what made it interesting to see and to talk to the owner.

There is a escape clause for online forums.:)
 
i always like seeing something different.... it just makes me wonder if the lifted truck world got this much hatred.... after all, they are top heavy, have bigger wheels/tires and most of them and i doubt they pay attention to getting bigger brakes. I love all cars... i really like my lincolns though, they were affordable and very nice compared to other vehicles i have purchased. Thanks for all the love :) i can tell this forum is alot more mature then most on the web.
 
I like your Lincoln. There are several TC's like that around here. There's an early 60's white Continental here like that that I think looks real good. Enjoy your ride!
 
i always like seeing something different.... it just makes me wonder if the lifted truck world got this much hatred.... after all, they are top heavy, have bigger wheels/tires and most of them and i doubt they pay attention to getting bigger brakes. I love all cars... i really like my lincolns though, they were affordable and very nice compared to other vehicles i have purchased. Thanks for all the love :) i can tell this forum is alot more mature then most on the web.

i dont think the lifted trucks got as much static because you "need" 44 inch mud tires to get some places especially hunting here in NC. but some big wheeled cars look alright i really enjoy pointing out a rusted/busted car with a lift and 26 inch wheels. i just dont get all that money in a beater. if its done right more power to em, i just wouldnt buy one for me.
 
true... i'm enjoying the ride my town car gives me, i am thinking about lowering it and putting skinny tires such as the 265/30/22.... that would be classy
 
Yes, the lifted trucks get plenty of hatred. Any time I point out a nice lifted truck, or a nice clean old 4x4, my girlfriend turns up her nose and calls me a redneck :)
 
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