The House of Representatives dont know what they signed and passed:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/31987.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/31987.html
Why the Constitution means jack nowadays.......
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RE: Why the Constitution means jack nowadays.......
wow i just dont think i belive anything published from the UK
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Yup, I wouldn’t if I had Fox telling me everything was okay, and running smoothly.
(I had more written here, but I rather stay out of this one).
wow i just dont think i belive anything published from the UK
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Yup, I wouldn’t if I had Fox telling me everything was okay, and running smoothly.
(I had more written here, but I rather stay out of this one).
RE: Why the Constitution means jack nowadays.......
Oh man, I could go on forever on this subject. First of all Peter, it doesn't matter whether you believe anything coming out of Britain or not. The article is accurate.
And it's about time our congress people got some balls and start to tear this un-American POS legislation down. Ashcroft and his merry band of Constitution shredders came out with the Patriot Act just days after 9/11, claiming they needed the "tools" to fight terrorism. Bull----. We now find out from the long-awaited 9/11 report that the FBI and CIA had all the information they needed, they just decided to blow it off. I'm NOT saying they intentionally let it happen, all I'm saying is that they had what they needed without the help of the Patriot Act but dropped the ball anyway.
I'm glad they're finally sending a message to Ayatolla Ashcroft. This is a good first step, but I won't be satisfied until the Patriot Act is totally repealed.
Oh man, I could go on forever on this subject. First of all Peter, it doesn't matter whether you believe anything coming out of Britain or not. The article is accurate.
And it's about time our congress people got some balls and start to tear this un-American POS legislation down. Ashcroft and his merry band of Constitution shredders came out with the Patriot Act just days after 9/11, claiming they needed the "tools" to fight terrorism. Bull----. We now find out from the long-awaited 9/11 report that the FBI and CIA had all the information they needed, they just decided to blow it off. I'm NOT saying they intentionally let it happen, all I'm saying is that they had what they needed without the help of the Patriot Act but dropped the ball anyway.
I'm glad they're finally sending a message to Ayatolla Ashcroft. This is a good first step, but I won't be satisfied until the Patriot Act is totally repealed.
RE: Why the Constitution means jack nowadays.......
Some more info:
http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news/?c=&p=patriot+act
Some more info:
http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news/?c=&p=patriot+act
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RE: Why the Constitution means jack nowadays.......
it's still british :+
it's still british :+
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RE: Why the Constitution means jack nowadays.......
Sure, the British media seems to hate America, but they're dead-on with this one.
Did you know that under the PATRIOT act (it's an acronym, has nothing to do with patriotism) they can pull your library records without a warrant, arrest you without charging you OR notifying your family, tap your phone without a warrant, and many other highly unconstitutional things? It's disgusting. Do a little research on it. The feds REALLY put one over on us with that piece of ##### legislation. All i can say is that this is a step in the right direction, and I hope that the PATRIOT act sunsets in '05 like it's supposed to.
Now, how many of you know about civil seizure? Did you know that the feds can come in and take all of your stuff (any damn thing they want), never charge you with a crime (let alone convict you) and you'll be totally screwed? You have to put up 10% of the value of the seized property (ain't easy when they seize your life savings), and then there will be a court proceeding between the feds and your property, with you as a third party. The burden of proof is not on the feds, and it's not on you, it's on your property. Your property has to prove beyond a preponderance of the evidence (i think, might be reasonable doubt) that it was not involved in any crime (any crime, remember, that the government can't even prove was commited). That ones just as bad, but most citizens don't even know about that.
Sure, the British media seems to hate America, but they're dead-on with this one.
Did you know that under the PATRIOT act (it's an acronym, has nothing to do with patriotism) they can pull your library records without a warrant, arrest you without charging you OR notifying your family, tap your phone without a warrant, and many other highly unconstitutional things? It's disgusting. Do a little research on it. The feds REALLY put one over on us with that piece of ##### legislation. All i can say is that this is a step in the right direction, and I hope that the PATRIOT act sunsets in '05 like it's supposed to.
Now, how many of you know about civil seizure? Did you know that the feds can come in and take all of your stuff (any damn thing they want), never charge you with a crime (let alone convict you) and you'll be totally screwed? You have to put up 10% of the value of the seized property (ain't easy when they seize your life savings), and then there will be a court proceeding between the feds and your property, with you as a third party. The burden of proof is not on the feds, and it's not on you, it's on your property. Your property has to prove beyond a preponderance of the evidence (i think, might be reasonable doubt) that it was not involved in any crime (any crime, remember, that the government can't even prove was commited). That ones just as bad, but most citizens don't even know about that.