Have you read about this? [link:www.freep.com/money/autonews/knock14_20031114.htm|Problem with GM engines.]
http://members.tccoa.com/lastmrk/Images/lastmrk2.jpg
http://members.tccoa.com/lastmrk/Images/lastmrk2.jpg
Yikes
- Thread starter Last Mrk
- Start date
RE: Yikes
Not until now.
That's terrible. How is one to know? To many it seemed like the perfect choice. Now, this?
GMs gonna really get hurt on this one, big time! Sloan & Durant woulda made it right, but todays bunch just wants parts made cheaper & cheaper. THIS therefore is what they get.
Door's open, Toyotas gettin' ready to run thru it with their new truck.
Not until now.
That's terrible. How is one to know? To many it seemed like the perfect choice. Now, this?
GMs gonna really get hurt on this one, big time! Sloan & Durant woulda made it right, but todays bunch just wants parts made cheaper & cheaper. THIS therefore is what they get.
Door's open, Toyotas gettin' ready to run thru it with their new truck.
RE: Yikes
This happend on our 2001 Silverado with the 5300. After 2 years and 10,000 miles, we traded it in on a new 2003, so looks like we're good to go with that. We just assumed it was a lifter noise, but the service manager told us that it was ok and "Just the nature of these new high-output engines." Anyways, no problems with the new one, and I know the guy that bought the 2001 off the dealer, so im going to have to keep an eye out on that...
This happend on our 2001 Silverado with the 5300. After 2 years and 10,000 miles, we traded it in on a new 2003, so looks like we're good to go with that. We just assumed it was a lifter noise, but the service manager told us that it was ok and "Just the nature of these new high-output engines." Anyways, no problems with the new one, and I know the guy that bought the 2001 off the dealer, so im going to have to keep an eye out on that...
RE: Yikes
toyota POS aint going thru no where, That new ford F-150 is one sweet ride.
[/quote]
I think Sandy must mean Nissan. The Toyota is a 3/4 full size truck. The Nissan is the REAL deal, and then some! It is a VERY fine piece of machinery. It's clear that Toyota REALLY did their homewrok before just putting together a truck. And it has an amazing engine too. Thoroughly DEMOLISHES the vaunted Hemi in roadtests and DESTROYS it by over 1 second 0-60 and runs as fast as CHevy's SS through the 1/4 mile. It's very impressive! Mark my words...it will come down to the wire between the new F150 and the Toyota for Truck of The Year.
toyota POS aint going thru no where, That new ford F-150 is one sweet ride.
[/quote]
I think Sandy must mean Nissan. The Toyota is a 3/4 full size truck. The Nissan is the REAL deal, and then some! It is a VERY fine piece of machinery. It's clear that Toyota REALLY did their homewrok before just putting together a truck. And it has an amazing engine too. Thoroughly DEMOLISHES the vaunted Hemi in roadtests and DESTROYS it by over 1 second 0-60 and runs as fast as CHevy's SS through the 1/4 mile. It's very impressive! Mark my words...it will come down to the wire between the new F150 and the Toyota for Truck of The Year.
RE: Yikes
I cannot understand with computer design and long term testing that a problem like that was not caught by GM before the new engine was released to the public. GM has been making piston engines for one hundred years without that that problem. It is unbelievable that a design flaw like that can occur.
GM and Ford have been relying on their supremacy in trucks for income for decades. The last Toyota T-100 truck was a joke - a full size truck with a 6 cylinder and even gasp a 4 cylinder engine. It is obvious Toyota took apart and studied a lot of GM, Dodge and Ford trucks before designing the new Tundra truck. It now has a smooth running V-8. It is a real competent full size truck now and will cut into the domestic truck sales. The next Toyota full size truck will even be better. This may mean the eventual death of GM or Ford or both.
It is ironic that the foreign car companies now make so many V-8 engines, which the US companies pioneered and was their dominant strength for decades. I remember one woman friend who told me twenty years ago that she would not buy an American car because they have gas guzzling V-8’s. I could bet money that she currently driving a gas guzzling Japanese SUV with a V-8.
Alexander
President
Lincolns of Distinction
I cannot understand with computer design and long term testing that a problem like that was not caught by GM before the new engine was released to the public. GM has been making piston engines for one hundred years without that that problem. It is unbelievable that a design flaw like that can occur.
GM and Ford have been relying on their supremacy in trucks for income for decades. The last Toyota T-100 truck was a joke - a full size truck with a 6 cylinder and even gasp a 4 cylinder engine. It is obvious Toyota took apart and studied a lot of GM, Dodge and Ford trucks before designing the new Tundra truck. It now has a smooth running V-8. It is a real competent full size truck now and will cut into the domestic truck sales. The next Toyota full size truck will even be better. This may mean the eventual death of GM or Ford or both.
It is ironic that the foreign car companies now make so many V-8 engines, which the US companies pioneered and was their dominant strength for decades. I remember one woman friend who told me twenty years ago that she would not buy an American car because they have gas guzzling V-8’s. I could bet money that she currently driving a gas guzzling Japanese SUV with a V-8.
Alexander
President
Lincolns of Distinction
RE: Yikes
Ten years, a hundred years, a thousand years. Design is art of application, not all taught nor all remembered. What is known now may be forgotten in the future. A fluid mix of science, math, physics and personality that computers can help emulate but never replace. We are still trying to unravel the mystery of the pyramids.
Long term testing may have very well indicated a problem, but it could have been so far along, the bean counters calculated it to be less expensive to take the current approach rather than restart from scratch.
Ten years, a hundred years, a thousand years. Design is art of application, not all taught nor all remembered. What is known now may be forgotten in the future. A fluid mix of science, math, physics and personality that computers can help emulate but never replace. We are still trying to unravel the mystery of the pyramids.
Long term testing may have very well indicated a problem, but it could have been so far along, the bean counters calculated it to be less expensive to take the current approach rather than restart from scratch.