1999 Subwoofer removal/repair.

tixer

Lincoln Evangelist
So the factory sub in my 1999 Town Car Signature has been blown since I got the car. It was annoying, but since it was cold out, I opted to live with it.

If you are suspicious that yours is doing the same, listen to some music and if you hear "tppth tppth tppth" with the beat, instead of "thump thump thump." Something is amiss.
To confirm it is the sub, just fade the stereo all the way to the front. If the bad noise is still behind you, it's the sub. It may be worth noting that mine was most annoying at lower volumes..

So today, I tore into it.

Although the sub is readily visible from the trunk, it is secured to the package tray from above, which means the back seat has to come out to get to it.

This is really simpler than it sounds. Find yourself an 11mm deep socket, and an 18mm deep socket, your longest-handled ratchet, and set them aside for now.

The "seat" of the back seat can be removed by climbing into the foot-well, pushing the front edge firmly toward the rear of the car, and lifting up. There's a clip on both sides, so you'll have to do this twice. Once those are released, just lift the front edge up, and the whole thing comes out. Easy breezy.

To remove the back rest, you'll need that 18mm socket. The two outer-most seat-belt nuts have to come out, as the backrest is secured beneath them. Grab the back-rest from beneath, and pull firmly up. There are three "hooks" behind it at the top that hold it in place. Once released, you'll need to slide it out from behind the center occupant's shoulder strap, but it will come right out.

This is a great time to clean under the back seat and look for change, treasures and/or petrified fast food items.

To remove the rear package tray "carpet," there are two plastic push pins along the front edge that have to come out, and the center seat-belt needs to be threaded through the slot provided. Just pull the whole thing toward you, and it should slide out. Keep an eye on the hooks for the speaker grilles, as they seem prone to hanging up on the speakers. Also in my case, a bit of the adhesive used at the factory on the back window was stuck to the carpet near the brake light. I was able to free this by just poking it with my fingers as I pulled.

The brake light itself does not have to be removed, as the "carpet." it is cut to fit around it.

At this point, the speaker for the subwoofer is accessible. If you plan to simply replace it with a new 6" speaker, you can actually remove it without going through the complexities below. It is secured by four Phillips screws, just inside the perimeter of the foam "circle" glued on top of the speaker. They can be removed without removing the foam if you are careful. The wires are attached to the speaker with regular (but differently sized) blade connectors.

If you however don't have a 6" speaker handy, or maybe have bigger plans, keep reading.

Here's the only part where it gets a little tricky. You'll now see that the whole back seat and package tray is covered with a black rubber mat. That mat is held in place up top with two plastic push-pins that are easy to see and remove, but it also fits underneath (and around) the brake light.

To free this, gently lift up on the back two corners of the light. They are secured by tabs that fit into slots in the package tray. You will not be able to remove the entire fixture; it seems that it gets installed before the window glass. I did find that I was able to lift the tabs just enough to slide the rubber out from beneath it, one side at a time.

Once the mat is out of the way, you'll see the antenna amplifier, the speaker wires, and the three 11mm bolts for the subwoofer. Remove two of the three bolts for the subwoofer, and then ask yourself. "Did I disconnect the wire to the sub from the amplifier inside the trunk?" because the answer will be "no," go do that. It unplugs easily from the amp, and it is the only wire in the harness. There's also one clip to release to free the wire up entirely.

Now you can unscrew that last nut, and support the sub from underneath while doing so.

Ta-da!
 

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Lvnmarks

quandoomniflunkusmoritati
Nice job! So do you have a replacement for it yet? I don't know if mine has one or not.
 

jackofroses

New member
cool project.

my two 95's and similarly my 93 all had semi useless big by extra large cassette players. both 95's functioned (after a fashion) and couldn't drive a cassette input adapter but sounded ok.... when i got the first one , i had no resources, so I stuck an old amp in the truck and pigtailed to the speakers and drove around with an mp3 player.
I eventually ditched the radio , and the ashtray , where i mounted an after market receiver , and in the radio hole sits an album full of cds . the antenna doesn't work. never did. I eventually replaced the deck speakers with pioneer 6x9's , with was relatively painless......
on the 93, it was virtually the same except i used the radio hole , and the (stuck 1/2 up) antenna actually works....that and it still has its ashtray.....

i think the door speakers are also std 5 1/4 's too , but i'm not sure.
 

tixer

Lincoln Evangelist
Jack: I like your style. It is worth noting that not all cassette adapters are built the same. It seems that the full-logic tape decks are finicky. If found that my old "sony" adapters would just make the auto-reverse constantly trigger, but a cheapie "emmerson" worked fine. The difference was the way it interfaced with the tape tensioner pulley. the ones that didn't work had something that looked like a "belt" inside the bottom of the adapter, where the one that did work had more of an idler wheel.

As for the Amp and MP3 player solution, that is exactly what I plan to implement for a friend's '93 civic. the thing keeps getting broken into, but I figure if I leave a bundle of cut off wires hanging out of the dash, along with a 3.5mm jack and a switch, it'll lose a lot of the appeal. :D

I regret that I never had the doors apart in my former girlfriend's '92 crown vic. I don't know what size those speakers were. I did put a nice Alpine head unit in there for her though.

The door speakers in my '86 were a totally oddball size.. I was able to replace them with some 6.5" speakers, but it was a tight squeeze.
 

tixer

Lincoln Evangelist
Nice job! So do you have a replacement for it yet? I don't know if mine has one or not.
Oh yes. :D Indeed I did.

I dug down through the layers of Mike's used car audio emporium, and came up with an old band pass enclosure from Radio Shack of all places. A buddy and I bought it for his 1986 Buick Electra Estate Wagon back in 1995. It has been through a handful of other cars since then, and the original cheapie 8" driver was replaced with a super high-zoot Rockford Fosgate unit when I helped a different friend install it in his Geo Metro. After that, it somehow ended up back in my possession, sitting on a shelf in the garage, until now.

I also have a couple old bazooka tubes that seemed to be good, compact candidates, but I just couldn't beat the fit of this one, as you'll see in the photo. :D

Since the wiring for the factory sub is easily removed, I simply cut the blade connectors off the end, and screwed down the bare wires onto the sub box. The factory amp was already crossed over for the right frequency, and seems to drive enough power for it.

It definitely has better low extension than the factory unit (as it should.) but it isn't anywhere close to "shake the neighborhood" levels of bass. I'm sure I'd need a bigger amp (and/or sub) to do that. Still, I'm quite pleased with the results.

One observation though. On the factory sub photo above, there's a large foam circle around the speaker that "seals" it to the package tray. Since my new solution now has an inch or so gap between the port on the sub and the hole in the package tray, I think some additional road noise is now being introduced from the trunk. It is not terrible, but I suspect it is worse than before.
 

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tixer

Lincoln Evangelist
Thanks. I figured I'd at least leave some info for searches to dig up. I should have taken more photos, but honestly, I've had the back seats in and out of these things so many times that I didn't even think about it.

I'm 99% that the entire back seat from my '86 would drop right into the '99 if I were to swap seat-belts along with it. Of course I can only imagine the amount of flack I would receive for putting my blue velour interior into a green car..

Still, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't very tempted.. :D
 

Lvnmarks

quandoomniflunkusmoritati
Still, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't very tempted.. :D
And encouraged!

Audio is unfortunately low on the town car list of wants right now, been look for some good rubber in the mean time.




I was actually surprised by the sound system when I first got the car; I was expecting the same set up my Mark VIII had or worse. It actually has a little bump to it.
 

tixer

Lincoln Evangelist
Now that this is fixed, I'm content with what I have. I just didn't want it to sound /terrible/ anymore.

As for the tires, I got General Altimax (HP?) for mine, and I'm happy enough. at about $100 per, the price was right.
 

jackofroses

New member
the adapter info was very useful =] i always thought that they were all basically the same.
good to know for future reference. i don't recall the werabouts of the adapter in question,


as for the groundshaking subwoofer, isn't a towncar exactly the opposite of the right kinda car for that sort of thing? i mean , i've got a 35x4 jbl receiver , and i can be blasting psychobilly so loud it makes my ears ring , yet with the windows up , you can barely even hear it ten feet from the car.
thats the point of these cars... 'cept in reverse. to shake the ground , it seems the first steps would be to remove the sound deadening in the floors and doors and such.
 
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