Another Conti Conundrum...

BadSax

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So in Mass after you buy a car you have 7 days to have the car inspected. So of course the woman waits like two weeks to have the car inspected, and when she returns, her 01 Conti has a rejection sticker...

According to the inspection place, when they plugged into the car the computer told them it was “not ready to be tested”. Now, there are no codes stored in the car, I’ve checked. So what the hell is going on here?

Thanks in advance!!!

-J :7

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Frankie X

New member
Oh, boy! The explanation for this is really long, so I'll try and give the short version.

On EECIV systems, if a vehicle had a problem it was very easy to fake a system pass simply by disconnecting the battery for 5 min. and then going through an inspection station with no malfunction codes in memory. Beginning in 1994, CARB and the EPA mandated a more comprehensive internal monitoring system that became OBDII. Rather than simply self testing for malfunctions, OBDII can test for system inefficiencies through "Enhanced Monitors" of subsystems. There are 10 of them and the PCM performs them under very specific driving conditions. For example: catalytic efficiency is tested over 5 instances of a steady cruise at speeds between 25-45mph, each 120 sec. long. Evaporative emissions monitor can only be performed when there is more than 1/2 but not over 3/4 of a tank of fuel. EGR monitor needs at least 3 mild accelerations from 0-45mph without the vehicle being shut off in between. And so on, and so on....

When you say you scanned the car and got no codes, that's not true. You got P1000. This is NOT a pass code. This means that all subsystem monitors have not been completed. Hence the "not ready to be tested". If they had been, you would have recieved no numbers, but the actual four letters, P A S S.

How did this happen? If the battery was disconnected long enough for the adaptive memory to be erased, the PCM starts the monitors all over again. If the PCM has just been replaced and has no learned memory, same thing. The memory could have been deliberately erased with a scan tool.

I can use a scan tool and select and force each monitor to be completed one at a time, but even that way usually takes almost an hour of driving with the scan tool on the seat beside me. I suggest you take the Continental for a nice long city/highway drive, with at least 3 instances idling in gear, 2min. each.

Happy motoring.
 

BadSax

enjoys 3 martini lunches
Thank you very much!

My code reader isn't super fancy, but when I plugged in, I got a pass, rather then any codes at all.

This driving thing is good to know, are there other conditions that I should have the woman shoot for? She's been driving the car for a few weeks now, so I would think that she's met most of these conditions, but perhaps not.

Again, thanks!

-J :7

www.bradleyreport.net
 

Frankie X

New member
How's this: Drive Cycles
Description of OBD II Drive Cycle
The following procedure is designed to execute and complete the OBDII monitors and to clear the Ford P1000, I/M readiness code. To complete a specific monitor for repair verification, follow steps 1 through 4, then continue with the step described by the appropriate monitor found under the "OBDII Monitor Exercised" column. When the ambient air temperature is outside 4.4 to 37.8°C (40 to 100 °F), or the altitude is above 2438 meters (8000 feet), the EVAP monitor will not run. If the P1000 code must be cleared in these conditions, the PCM must detect them once (twice on some applications) before the EVAP monitor can be "bypassed" and the P1000 cleared. The EVAP "bypassing" procedure is described in the following drive cycle.

The OBDII Drive Cycle will be performed using a scan tool. Consult the instruction manual for each described function.

Note: A detailed description for clearing the DTCs is found in this section. Refer to Clear The Continuous Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) And Reset The Emission Monitors Information in The Powertrain Control Module (PCM).

Drive Cycle Recommendations
Most OBDII monitors will complete more readily using a "steady foot" driving style during cruise or acceleration modes. Operating the throttle in a "smooth" fashion will minimize the time required for monitor completion.
Fuel tank level should be between 1/2 and 3/4 fill with 3/4 fill being the most desirable.
The Evaporative Monitor can only operate during the first 30 minutes of engine operation. When executing the procedure for this monitor, stay in part throttle mode and drive in a smooth fashion to minimize "fuel slosh".
WARNING: STRICT OBSERVANCE OF POSTED SPEED LIMITS AND ATTENTION TO DRIVING CONDITIONS ARE MANDATORY WHEN PROCEEDING THROUGH THE FOLLOWING DRIVE CYCLES.

For best result, follow each of the following steps as accurately as possible:



OBDII Monitor Exercised Drive Cycle Procedure Purpose of Drive Cycle Procedure
Drive Cycle Preparation 1. Install scan tool. Turn key on with the engine off. Cycle key off, then on. Select appropriate Vehicle & Engine qualifier. Clear the continuous diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) and reset the emission monitors information in the powertrain control module (PCM). Bypass engine soak timer. Resets OBDII Monitor status.
2. Begin to monitor the following PIDs: ECT, EVAPDC, FLI (if available) and TP MODE. Start vehicle WITHOUT returning to Key Off.
3. Idle vehicle for 15 seconds. Drive at 64 Km/h (40 MPH) until ECT is at least 76.7°C (170°F).
Prep for Monitor Entry 4. Is IAT within 4.4 to 37.8°C (40 to 100°F)? If not, complete the following steps, but note that step 14 will be required to "bypass" the EVAP monitor and clear the P1000. Engine warm-up and provide IAT input to the PCM.
HEGO 5. Cruise at 64 Km/h (40 MPH) for at least 5 minutes. Executes the HEGO monitor.
EVAP 6. Cruise at 72 to 104 Km/h (45 to 65 MPH) for 10 minutes (avoid sharp turns and hills). NOTE: To initiate the monitor TP MODE should = PT, EVAPDC must be > 75%, and FLI must be between 15 and 85%. Executes the EVAP monitor (If IAT is within 4.4 to 37.8°C (40 to 100°F).
Catalyst 7. Drive in stop-and-go traffic conditions. Include five different constant cruise speeds, ranging from 40 to 72 Km/h (25 to 45 MPH) over a 10 minute period. Executes the Catalyst Monitor.
EGR 8. From a stop, accelerate to 72 Km/h (45 MPH) at 1/2 to 3/4 throttle. Repeat 3 times. Executes the EGR Monitor.
SEC AIR/CCM (Engine) 9. Bring the vehicle to a stop. Idle with transmission in drive (neutral for M/T) for 2 minutes. Executes the ISC portion of the CCM.
CCM (Trans) 10. For M/T, accelerate from 0 to 80 Km/h (0 to 50 MPH), continue to step 11. For A/T, from a stop and in overdrive, moderately accelerate to 80 Km/h (50 MPH) and cruise for at least 15 seconds. Stop vehicle and repeat without overdrive to 64 Km/h (40 MPH) cruising for at least 30 seconds. While at 64 Km/h (40 MPH), activate overdrive and accelerate to 80 Km/h (50 MPH) and cruise for at least 15 seconds. Stop for at least 20 seconds and repeat step 10 five times. Executes the transmission portion of the CCM.
Misfire & Fuel Monitors 11. From a stop, accelerate to 104 Km/h (65 MPH). Decelerate at closed throttle until 64 Km/h (40 MPH) (no brakes). Repeat this 3 times. Allows learning for the misfire monitor.
Readiness Check 12. Access the On-Board System Readiness (OBDII monitor status) function on the scan tool. Determine whether all non-continuous monitors have completed. If not, go to step 13. Determines if any monitor has not completed.
Pending Code Check and EVAP Monitor "Bypass" Check 13. With the scan tool, check for pending codes. Conduct normal repair procedures for any pending code concern. Otherwise, rerun any incomplete monitor. If the EVAP monitor is not complete AND IAT was out of the 4.4 to 37.8 °C (40 to 100 °F) temperature range in step #4, or the altitude is over 2438 m. (8000 ft.), the EVAP "bypass" procedure must be followed. Proceed to Step 14. Determines if a pending code is preventing the clearing of P1000.
EVAP Monitor "Bypass" 14. Park vehicle for a minimum of 8 hours. Repeat steps 2 through 12. DO NOT REPEAT STEP 1. Allow the "bypass" counter to increment to two.



Really, a couple of days of suburb to downtown commutes should clear P1000. On the other hand, I've seen sweet old ladies who only drive to church on Sunday and shopping on Thursday (you know the kind-- they have never been on a highway because "everything moves so fast") who will never clear P1000 in the life of the vehicle.
 
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