2nd gen power steering pump removal help

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I cannot find an exploded view of power steering removal bolts and locations. From the angle im taking it off from you cant see anything.

Im replacing a leaking gasket between oil filter assembly and engine block on a 1996 Lincoln Mark VIII. But the genious's at Ford saved money by installing two brackets power & steering lines with one damn bolt. You cant get to the last bolt on the oil filter assembly without removing the power steering pump cause its in the way by 1/2 ". Geniouses.....The three of the four bolts are out on the oil filter assembly, and one is remaining judging from the new gasket that has 4 holes. But from underneath the car you cant see it much less access it without removing the power steering pump.

I felt through the pulley holes and felt one bolt that hold the power steering pump on??? I assume the pulley comes off with an allen head socket and pulls off to access the bolts? I would prefer to unbolt the entire power steering pump and tilt it forward 2 " for clearance to get to the last remaing bolt on the oil filter assembly. I wish the designer was here in the garage with me, cause id slap him for poor design. HAve to open the bottom line jst to get to the mounting bolts. Should off been off to the side not directly underneath the flare nut so you have to open the system to move the pump. The 1st gens come off easy with no problems. And this one was "designed" to save money on two bolts from what it looks like. But three diferent components have to be removed. Battery tray, serpntine belt, power steering resivour, and coolant and oild drained. This gasket design sucks in placement, and also function. Could have been better designed as a separte mounting location.

So i guess after this rant, i just need to see an exploded view of the power steering pump bolts exploded view and ill take it from there. I dont want to take off more than is needed or to actually open the steering fluid system and have to rebleed it.
Why couldnt they just leave the 1996 to gen one engine specs? The second gen sucks wth all that extra plumbing for emmissions.
 
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For the life of me I couldn't find a Power Steering Pump diagram but I did find the Oil Filter Adaptor diagram, and yes, there are 4 bolts.
 

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You can see the bolts to the left of the oil filter, there are none holding it on through the pulley. When I did my buddies, I used a really long 1/4" drive extention with a wobble 10MM socket. Didn't have to remove the battery or any of that junk you mentioned. Just turned the front wheels all the way left and pulled everything off.

This is all I could find, no blow up of the pump/bolts.

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Come to think of it...looking at my picture, I didn't even have to remove the pump. I just swung that sensor plug up and accessed the bolt there.
 
Remove the wheel, you can see and get access to the bolts from the wheel housing area. I forget where exactly, just grab a flashlight and you'll see where you can get extensions through.
 
J said:
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You can see the bolts to the left of the oil filter, there are none holding it on through the pulley. When I did my buddies, I used a really long 1/4" drive extention with a wobble 10MM socket. Didn't have to remove the battery or any of that junk you mentioned. Just turned the front wheels all the way left and pulled everything off.

This is all I could find, no blow up of the pump/bolts.

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I did it the same way on my 95. No need to mess with the PS pump.
 
Thanks guys!

Thanks guys!

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Come to think of it...looking at my picture, I didn't even have to remove the pump. I just swung that sensor plug up and accessed the bolt there.
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Yep, the sensor swiveled away for me too to get the one bolt free, but the other bolt closer to the pulley wheel is directly UNDER the flare nut that needs to be removed for the power steering line goinginto the pump. Kind of like the irony here ford engineers? Good pic by the way J. Helps too.

Thankyou guys! JP This picture is perfect and should work fine. I got the top two bolts out and the bottom one, Its that one in the middle left side i cant access with the power steering body in the way. Just got back from store and bought metric and American flarenut crowsfeet sets. It fits on tere, but i cannot swivel the nut because the pulley edge is there stopping the turning of the nut. You almost need a 90 degree bent flare nut wrench with the end bent 90 degrees in a vice to do it.
So im back to removing the power steering pump and pushing it out of the way and holding it with some wire while i do the rest.
We trid the allen screw in the middle of pulley tonight before i closed up shop. Is thata clockwise or counterclockwise turn bolt? I got PB blaster soaking on it now, but ill bring back my puller tommorow and the bolt has to come out before the puller can do it. So the power steering pump bolt locations ill be hunting again tomorow in more light. I went in through the drivers side wheel well inner shell taken out. Didnt need to pull the battery out or the tray.
 
Did you get the crowsfoot "socket" wrenches or the regular flare nut wrenches?

I've made many "custom" wrenches over the years using cheap combination wrenches.
 
If you really need to pull the pump to access that one adapter bolt, then either undo the pressure line, or remove the pulley. There is no bolt holding the pulley onto the pump shaft. Just use a regular PS pulley puller to remove it. The shaft has a hex in it, but no use really.
 
I just want to be positive here....I don't think you have to take off the pump to access the 4 bolts. The 4 bolts should be completely separate from the pump. Too bad my oil filter was on or you'd be able to see what I'm talking about but if you compare your gasket or my two pictures, you'd see that the pump doesn't need to be messed with.

Get yourself a 1/4 drive 10MM chrome and a long 1/4 extention. No need to take off the wheel or wheel well liner, just turn the wheel to the left. I'm pretty sure I found the easy way.

Similar to this one but 5 point not 8 point.
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I remember this specifically because everyone was complaining how hard it was and this was my first time doing it. Next I did the IAC valve on a 94...that was WAY worse! :)



BINGO....see I searched my archives and found a couple of close ups of the powersteering pump (because I changed it when I installed my headers). No reason to pull of your pump to access the 4 adapter bolts. The only reason you'd need to take off that bolt under the flare fitting/pressure line is to remove the pump.

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Absolutely no reason to touch the power steering pump.
 

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driller said:
Did you get the crowsfoot "socket" wrenches or the regular flare nut wrenches?

I've made many "custom" wrenches over the years using cheap combination wrenches.
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I got the crows feet sets that you insert a 3/8" drive into. Problem is once its on, theres no room to turn the stinking flarenut on the high pressure line, lol.

If i could get the pressure line off, id have it done already. Thats what im banging my head on. Looking at that picture from J, that is the engine with no K member and fender in the way. (side question????what is holding that engine up in the car? Look at the motor mounts, plus no K member underneath the oil pan.???......)
I could get to that one easy with open end wrench turning it only 1/8 turn then resetting the wrench flipped over and at it again. I dont have room for anything other than an open end with head bent to like 45 degrees or up to 90 degrees. Theres that last bolt still holding the adapter plate on that sits in the middle left side between upper and lower left bolt.
Think ill bend one to 45 degrees tommorow. The crows feet are too big but would of worked perfectly if the pulley backside lip wasnt so close to the flarenut on the pressure line.
Its just two bolts that hold the power steering pump to the block right? I got one off, already. going for the other one tommorow. Well hell..its 1:50 AM now, today after a re wake up. haha im going to bed now.
 
Thats it!

Thats it!

DLF said:
Absolutely no reason to touch the power steering pump.
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Yep, i agree with you both now that i can see those pics. Thanks a ton you guys. Theres nothing wrong wit the pump, just that damn leaking gasket. These pics prove it. Just from my angle laying on the floor you cant see that 4th bolt but i knew it was there looking at the gasket.
You guys are great. and Yes i do suck at searches. Everytime i try to do a search under different keywords, it kicks me out and says i need to relog in .hahah Im like im already logged in!. Ahh well.
These are perfect. Ill finsih up that mess tommorow, well today. ok, im off to bed. Thanks to all of you for jumpin in and helping. Thumbs up.
 
For future reference...you can get that pressure hose off with a short 18MM wrench, you can't fit a crows foot on it.

Here's how I hung the engine.

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billcu said:
If you have 50+ year old eyeballs like I do, it always helps to remove the wheel.:D
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haha It was removed along with everything else in the way that would come off. (Alot of stuff i didnt need to mess with, future note). Im from the old camp that says if i gotta tweak,bend,grunt,flex, or squint, Get the parts out of the way and get a clear unobstructed view of what youre attacking. Then put it all back together again.
 
wow

wow

J said:
For future reference...you can get that pressure hose off with a short 18MM wrench, you can't fit a crows foot on it.

Here's how I hung the engine.

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Pretty cool setup. You guys make that one? and get it powder coated? That would be sweet for changing out oil pans, then you could just drop the crossmember and front suspension, and have at the pan and oil pump.
Kinda makes me leary that all that weight are just on the intake bolts threaded into aluminum, but thats connected directly to the block, so i guess its cool. I would think hanging on there long would kinda bend or put pressure on the aluminum pulling the upper cover up.
But it served its purpous, look at all the elbow room you had for working looking at those pics you put up. Niiiice. I picked up a set of those 1/4" wobble sockets too. I like them.
 
Jeff, you can see all the pictures here....it was definetely MUCH easier using the engine hanger. That was was purchased....it was like 60 bucks or something cheap. The majority of the weight was being held up by the passengerside bolt down on the head...the other bolt was just procautionary...but ya, it was fishy. :)
 
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