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i was wondering if anyone has done or is thinking about doing a zo6 or viper type wheel, brakes and tire package ?

i am seriously thinking about mini tubbing the car and throwing some steam roller 345's out back and some ~275's up front most likely 19's

so i'm wondering can i possibly use corvette hubs or something similar and what other issues might i run in to ?
 
I cant remember ever seeing but one tubbed Mark VIII, and it was (I believe) a strip only car. Please remember that the search function is your friend. I know there is post after post in the archives about modifling a Mark to Cobra hubs and brakes etc. I think it is likely that going to that size of tire, will make it a poor handling moster. I really suggest that you do some searching before you make any decisions.
 
thanks but i don't want to do anything cobra more like a complete new z06 setup full swap also mini tubbed not drag racing style tubbed

if other cars roll just fine with big tires (i don't mind some tram lining as it's somewhat normal with wide tires) i don't see how a properly setup combination would make it handle poorly ?
 
lincobra said:
thanks but i don't want to do anything cobra more like a complete new z06 setup full swap also mini tubbed not drag racing style tubbed

if other cars roll just fine with big tires (i don't mind some tram lining as it's somewhat normal with wide tires) i don't see how a properly setup combination would make it handle poorly ?
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345 tires in the back is just way too overkill and a complete waste of tire. There are guys on this board running 11s and 12s in the 1/4 mile with power-adders and they don't even have 345 tires. If you can run 7s in the 1/4 mile, that's different.
 
Let me come at this from a different direction.. If you want Corvette wheels and a small block Chevy for power, why dont you go buy a Camero? The cost to modify a Mark to GM parts is way way cost prohibitive. That is why I suggested Cobra parts. They interchange without costing a fortune. If you would heed my suggestion about the search function you would know some of this by now.
 
just to clear it up this is definantly not a track car i just think the car would look killer lowered with the big brakes and big michelin ps2 tires tucked in like it came that way

at the moment i have 245 50 17's all around, i'm thinking about stock z06 sizes 275 35 18 up front which are only .78 of an inch wider and 325 30 19 out back which are 3.15 of an inch wider and overall tire height is almost identical to my current tires
 
whiplash15 said:
Let me come at this from a different direction.. If you want Corvette wheels and a small block Chevy for power, why dont you go buy a Camero? The cost to modify a Mark to GM parts is way way cost prohibitive. That is why I suggested Cobra parts. They interchange without costing a fortune. If you would heed my suggestion about the search function you would know some of this by now.
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if you don't have anything nice to say ....

who said anything about vette wheels ? i buy aftermarket wheels

did i ever mention cost as a factor ?

did i ever mention a chevy engine ? btw i'm building a f2 procharged mod motor either for this car or for another project

also fwiw it's spelled "Camaro"

have a nice day sir :wave:
 
lincobra said:
just to clear it up this is definantly not a track car i just think the car would look killer lowered with the big brakes and big michelin ps2 tires tucked in like it came that way

at the moment i have 245 50 17's all around, i'm thinking about stock z06 sizes 275 35 18 up front which are only .78 of an inch wider and 325 30 19 out back which are 3.15 of an inch wider and overall tire height is almost identical to my current tires
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FWIW, I don't think you will fit any bigger than a 255 in the front. I have the Cobra front brake conversion with a hub swap running 18x9 wheels with a 30mm offset and 255/45-18 tires.

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There is barely a pinkie of clearance to the front upper control arm and they just barely tuck in the front fenders when lowered.

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Front will take 275/40/18 no problem if you're using an 18x9 36mm wheel. It actually fits better than the 255/45/18. It's a lot of tire for the front though. My buddy has them all around (275) and the car is awesome on the freeway. On the streets there is a some bump steer, but not too bad.

The rear will take 315 tire. You will run into the sway bar though if you want to keep the tire from sticking out past the fender lip. That's easily resolved though. Anything bigger, and you will run in to the front subframe mount. There is some modification possible there also, but things will get close. Basically max tire cross width needs to be around 12".
 
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Mad1stGen said:
Front will take 275/40/18 no problem if you're using an 18x9 36mm wheel. It actually fits better than the 255/45/18.
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Wow, that's really pushing the edge of the envelope! :cool:

My calculations say that would be 16mm (0.6") closer to the suspension/brakes over 18x9 30mm wheel with 255/45-18s. Only 4mm (0.2") closer to the fender though.

Got any pics?
 
Mad1stGen said:
Front will take 275/40/18 no problem if you're using an 18x9 36mm wheel. It actually fits better than the 255/45/18. It's a lot of tire for the front though. My buddy has them all around (275) and the car is awesome on the freeway. On the streets there is a some bump steer, but not too bad.

The rear will take 315 tire. You will run into the sway bar though if you want to keep the tire from sticking out past the fender lip. That's easily resolved though. Anything bigger, and you will run in to the front subframe mount. There is some modification possible there also, but things will get close. Basically max tire cross width needs to be around 12".
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thank you if a 275 40 18 fits then a 275 35 18 fits also

for the rear i would like to go 325 30 19 (12.8" wide) if it requires modification no problem the whole idea is to tuck the rears in to look like it came that way
 
Your first post said a Z06 or Viper type wheel. :)

I know what you meant though...you're wanting a staggered look.
 
lincobra said:
if you don't have anything nice to say ....

who said anything about vette wheels ? i buy aftermarket wheels

did i ever mention cost as a factor ?

did i ever mention a chevy engine ? btw i'm building a f2 procharged mod motor either for this car or for another project

also fwiw it's spelled "Camaro"

have a nice day sir :wave:
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I think you should take his advise with a little better attitude. The gentleman is simply letting you know that it would be much easier to go with a cobra type setup due to the fact that it would be more cost effective and a lot less of a pain. If you really wanna put corvette brakes on a Lincoln then by all means go for it. But show a senior member some respect. He has obviously been around long enough to know what he is talking about. This forum is not known for people being hateful to each other, Like you are doing to one of the Members on here. . He was trying to give you friendly advise and you threw it back at his face. And No I'm not a regular on the forum as far as posting goes. But I know who knows what they are talking about on here. Give people their respect as they have earned it. If you didn't want any opinions then you shouldn't have posted on here. Negative is something that your going to have to live with for your whole life. Choose to be a bigger person and take the high road. Don't act like a snot nosed kid. Also If you want to be a Smart*** take it to the P.Ms.
 
Easy. Whiplash was a little blunt so I'll defend linc but nothing to get all our panties in a bunch. Let's drop it and focus on the wheels. :D
 
lincobra, Now that it seems that it may be too late, I would like to offer my apologies for my abrupt responses. I usually can show more class and finesse that that. I really only meant to point out that your questions seemed to me to be far enough out in left field as to be foolish. Many of the guys hare have shown that the level of their experience has already tackled many if not most of the questions of the nature of yours, and you wiill find many of the answer that you seek in the archives. Also unlike some of the other Mark sites our search really does work quite well. I think JP, driller, 95blklsc, and others may have given you the direction you need to go. An example might be: As you become more familiar with Marks, this particular chasis does not lend itself well to tubbing. Not even mini tubs. The chasis is just too flexible. There are many articles about stiffeners to imporve handling etc. And as indicated by a couple other posts, you are likely to run into the same limiting factors that have stumped others. Yes, inovation is the name of the game, but money is a real limiting factor. So, lets see what you can do.
 
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I will chime in here...
The cost of the 325 size tires and wheels will exceed the cost of most mark VIIIs. ($400 a pop for those tires, and there are no wheels in our bolt pattern that are that wide that I am aware of)


325s are pretty much insane. The stock car comes with 7" rims for 325s you'll need 12" wide rims... first they are not cheap and second you will run into so many clearance issues it isn't even funny.

I had plenty of issues on a 9" wide rim on a mark... and the largest I have seen was 295s and that was with fender lip cuts etc.

Honestly I'd probably stick with 255/275s they look plenty beefier over stock. And tires and wheels are moderatly priced and can be found pretty much everywhere.
 
it's all good whiplash and thanks to everyone for your replies

the best way i can put this is either i buy a new z06 or whatever or instead of having a car many people have for basically the same $ i can have a car that will be off the charts imho
 
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