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I am just thinking about givein my mark a blower. I dont really like the snail superchargers. So I am wondering what options i have outside of the snail. Anything sounds good or options as to why the snail is a good supercharger.
Thanks,
Zack
 
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No other options. Why do you not like centrifugal superchargers? Have you ever used one? have you even ever owned or driven a supercharged car?
 
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you could get a kenne belle but not an intercooler. And you'd probably need a hood. And wouldn't make as much power as with a good centrifugal setup because of the lack of an intercooler. And it'd be less efficient too. And likely more expensive.
 
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i have driven supercharged cars before but never a centrifugal style supercharger. It isnt that i dont like them its just that i havent been around anything like it before and i do not know a lot about them. Does anyone know what kind of price i am looking at with the supercharger and intercooler?
thanks,
Zack
 
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Hard to say. There isn't a direct "kit" for our cars. It will take some work to get an intercooler in there, whether it's the vortech one or a custom setup. Some people spend thousands, some people (like jeremi) seem to be able to put together a SC setup for pennies.
 
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you could get a kenne belle but not an intercooler. And you'd probably need a hood. And wouldn't make as much power as with a good centrifugal setup because of the lack of an intercooler. And it'd be less efficient too. And likely more expensive.
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I read that the Kenne Bell had less parasitic loss and made in the neighborhood of 125 hp with only 6 pounds of boost - without the intercooler. Sounds like a better deal at the same price as the Vortech - $4,000.

Being that Kenne Bell is in my neighborhood, I'm going to bring my car over to them and have them take a look sometime next year.
 
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[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]you could get a kenne belle but not an intercooler. And you'd probably need a hood. And wouldn't make as much power as with a good centrifugal setup because of the lack of an intercooler. And it'd be less efficient too. And likely more expensive.[/div]I read that the Kenne Bell had less parasitic loss and made in the neighborhood of 125 hp with only 6 pounds of boost - without the intercooler. Sounds like a better deal at the same price as the Vortech - $4,000.Being that Kenne Bell is in my neighborhood, I'm going to bring my car over to them and have them take a look sometime next year.
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Have you seen a dyno from a KB auto IRS car ? You will be having very difficult time making 300rwhp. Enough said.
 
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[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong][div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]you could get a kenne belle but not an intercooler. And you'd probably need a hood. And wouldn't make as much power as with a good centrifugal setup because of the lack of an intercooler. And it'd be less efficient too. And likely more expensive.[/div]I read that the Kenne Bell had less parasitic loss and made in the neighborhood of 125 hp with only 6 pounds of boost - without the intercooler. Sounds like a better deal at the same price as the Vortech - $4,000.Being that Kenne Bell is in my neighborhood, I'm going to bring my car over to them and have them take a look sometime next year.[/div]Have you seen a dyno from a KB auto IRS car ? You will be having very difficult time making 300rwhp. Enough said.
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From the Kenne Bell website (According to them, this is the kit for our motors):

• +135HP/ +123 ft lbs. torque (108HP / 98ft lbs rear wheel).
• Twin Screw Design. More Efficient than the Eaton / Roots type. (Cooler air charge temp and less HP to drive)
• Looks Factory. Mounts on top of engine.
• Includes Kenne Bell "Open House" hi flo 20HP manifold. (Eliminates restricitive stock manifold).
• Whisper Quiet. No embarassing, annoying noise.
• No external oil lines or drilling holes in pan.
• No other changes necessary.
• Works with stock gears.
• No boost lag.
• 60-80 degrees cooler air charge temperature and requires 10-16 less HP to drive than roots style.
• No other engine or transmission changes required. Everyhting included.
• Not totally dependent on rpm for boost as with centrifugals.
• Fits under stock hood.
• Bolts to stock lower manifold.
• No intercooler required.
• BOOST-A-PUMP included. Only activates under boost.
• OPTIMODULE (chip) also included.

*300-650HP range. Varies with boost level.

A whopping increase of 135HP (440 vs 305) and 123 ft lbs torque (426 vs 303). This one will turn anyone's head around. "Top engine" design mounts supercharger where it belongs - on top of the 4.6 - not on the side or in between the radiator and water pump. Included with the kit is the new Kenne Bell ultra high flow "open house" manifold. No manifold will ever flow more air then this beauty. Near full rated boost at a mere 2400 RPM gives the little 280 cubic incher needed low end torque - AND MORE!
 
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Rock, scissors, paper...

Vortech, Kenne Bell, Nitrous...

Rock, scissors, paper... :+

I'm patiently awaiting the outcome.
 
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KB says one thing, auto+irs+kb+markviii dyno result will say otherwise. Whooping increase LMAO.

Both of my vortech supercharged cars had no problem making 350rwhp with mere 7-8 psi of boost and safest tune available.
Install was super easy, cost was ... let's just say it was neglible taking the results into account.
 
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So are you saying at the same boost level the Vortech will be 50+ RWHP higher than a KB?
 
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So right now I am getting ready to inlist in the NAVY. I am dropping out of college at the end of the term. I will have some money burning a hole in my pocket wanting to be spent on my lincoln. I think I am looking for a new cobra motor to bore .030 over and install the supercharger. I am not sure what I need to look for in a blower. I want a load of hp I need some big cams and all of the good stuff. Anyone that can point me in the right direction for any of these things would be great.
Thanks,
Zack
 
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So are you saying at the same boost level the Vortech will be 50+ RWHP higher than a KB?
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No, what I'm saying is that 350+ is possible with the vortech, and highly inlikely with the 1.5 KB.
 
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It's not all about peak horsepower though. A Vortech Mark VIII might make 350rwhp and a KB might make 310-20rwhp but the area under the curve and torque would be much greater. So The KB Mark VIII might have a better ET in the 1/4 mile but less MPH. I do agree that the 96-98 1.5 KB is an outdated kit though. It was one of the first blower setups to come out for the 96-98 Cobra and its age does show...
 
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I live right next to kenne bell in rancho cucamonga. I wouldn't go to them. BTW if you come out here check out the manual mark.
 
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the kenne belle will be far less efficient than a vortech. if the kenne belle for our cars could be had with an intercooler, i'd be far more apt to consider it, but for ease of installation and overall power/efficiency, i'd go with a centrifugal type supercharger, such as the vortech. Just more bang/buck, IMO. 6-7 lbs of boost with a vortech will get you an extra 100-125 rwhp, just like they're claiming for the kenne belle.

And the amount of money jeremi has into that car is rediculously small. He's got less into his supercharged car than i have in my NA car.
 
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[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong][div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong][div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]you could get a kenne belle but not an intercooler. And you'd probably need a hood. And wouldn't make as much power as with a good centrifugal setup because of the lack of an intercooler. And it'd be less efficient too. And likely more expensive.[/div]I read that the Kenne Bell had less parasitic loss and made in the neighborhood of 125 hp with only 6 pounds of boost - without the intercooler. Sounds like a better deal at the same price as the Vortech - $4,000.Being that Kenne Bell is in my neighborhood, I'm going to bring my car over to them and have them take a look sometime next year.[/div]Have you seen a dyno from a KB auto IRS car ? You will be having very difficult time making 300rwhp. Enough said. [/div]From the Kenne Bell website (According to them, this is the kit for our motors):• +135HP/ +123 ft lbs. torque (108HP / 98ft lbs rear wheel).• Twin Screw Design. More Efficient than the Eaton / Roots type. (Cooler air charge temp and less HP to drive)• Looks Factory. Mounts on top of engine.• Includes Kenne Bell "Open House" hi flo 20HP manifold. (Eliminates restricitive stock manifold).• Whisper Quiet. No embarassing, annoying noise.• No external oil lines or drilling holes in pan.• No other changes necessary.• Works with stock gears.• No boost lag.• 60-80 degrees cooler air charge temperature and requires 10-16 less HP to drive than roots style.• No other engine or transmission changes required. Everyhting included.• Not totally dependent on rpm for boost as with centrifugals.• Fits under stock hood.• Bolts to stock lower manifold.• No intercooler required.• BOOST-A-PUMP included. Only activates under boost.• OPTIMODULE (chip) also included.*300-650HP range. Varies with boost level. A whopping increase of 135HP (440 vs 305) and 123 ft lbs torque (426 vs 303). This one will turn anyone's head around. "Top engine" design mounts supercharger where it belongs - on top of the 4.6 - not on the side or in between the radiator and water pump. Included with the kit is the new Kenne Bell ultra high flow "open house" manifold. No manifold will ever flow more air then this beauty. Near full rated boost at a mere 2400 RPM gives the little 280 cubic incher needed low end torque - AND MORE!
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I asked Kenne Bell what they had specific to a Mark VIII and they said there is no unit made spcifically for our cars so I don't understand your post. Am I missing something here?
 
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A kit for a 96-98 cobra will fit our cars. some modification may be necessary. like a new hood.
 
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A kit for a 96-98 cobra will fit our cars. some modification may be necessary. like a new hood.
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Wouldn't it be easier just to go with the VORTECH unit already developed by Dennis Reinhart? :D
 
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[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]A kit for a 96-98 cobra will fit our cars. some modification may be necessary. like a new hood.[/div]Wouldn't it be easier just to go with the VORTECH unit already developed by Dennis Reinhart? :D
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"Developed by Dennis Reinhart"... are you trying to be funny or something?
 
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