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KB does not have a built specific for our cars, it has to be created. I will be reporting back on the installation of a KB 2.2L with inter cooler in a month or so as my project is underway to install one on top of a Forged Maurader engine/tranny packadge, with headers, 3" exhaust, and 3.73 rear gear.
 
RE: blowers? Back home in chilly CHI - TOWN

RE: blowers? Back home in chilly CHI - TOWN

I just returned from a trip to see Dennis Reinhart. My 94 Mark 8 ( stock long block + other mods) Put up 355 RWHP and 325 RWTQ using a vortech S trim w/ the 3.33 pulley(stock one for the s trim). Dennis was accomidating to helping tune for the Dyno AND the street. Driveabilty is right on. The car is amazingly quick, It will lay black lines on the pavement from a 35 mph roll and can easily put up triple digit MPH . My advice is to do your research and go see Dennis Reinhart.
 
RE: blowers? Back home in chilly CHI - TOWN

RE: blowers? Back home in chilly CHI - TOWN

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stock long block + other mods) Put up 355 RWHP and 325 RWTQ using a vortech S trim w/ the 3.33 pulley(stock one for the s trim). [/div]

Sotck S-trim is pullied at 3.60 and 3.48 pending the model.

3.33 s-trim should produce a little more than 355. More like 400 (especially with other mods ???)
 
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KB does not have a built specific for our cars, it has to be created. I will be reporting back on the installation of a KB 2.2L with inter cooler in a month or so as my project is underway to install one on top of a Forged Maurader engine/tranny packadge, with headers, 3" exhaust, and 3.73 rear gear.
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Finally !!!
 
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Yea Baby, coming from a shop near you.:9 :9
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NEED MORE INFO NEED MORE INFO NEED MORE INFO.
 
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[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong][div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]A kit for a 96-98 cobra will fit our cars. some modification may be necessary. like a new hood.[/div]Wouldn't it be easier just to go with the VORTECH unit already developed by Dennis Reinhart? :D [/div]"Developed by Dennis Reinhart"... are you trying to be funny or something?
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Well, what I meant is that Reinhart appears to have modified the unit so that it fits our cars without too much alteration. Maybe he didn't "develop" it, but he seems to be the only one specifiaclly marketing a Vortech unit for the VIII.;)
 
RE: blowers?

You can put a set of headers, intake, cams and ported heads on the car for what you will pay for a KB modded to fit the car and will gain about the same amount of power and have the power all the time.

IF you still want more slap a slightly used S trim on the car for 1000$ and a 3.33 pully and have enough power to run low 11's at the track with your big sled.
 
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Was just cruising in these threads looking for forced induction kits out there for the Mark VIII. I found a SC kit that uses a Lysholm 2300AX supercharger which is a twin screw style blower. A very efficient style SC like the Centrifugal, however the boost is always there. You do not need the RPM like the Vortech or Paxton. They also have an air to liquid intercooler that they claim is over 60% effective.

It ain't cheap but then again speed costs money, how fast ya wanna go ::roll::




http://www.allen-superchargers.com/racekit.html
 
RE: blowers? Back home in chilly CHI - TOWN

RE: blowers? Back home in chilly CHI - TOWN

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[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]stock long block + other mods) Put up 355 RWHP and 325 RWTQ using a vortech S trim w/ the 3.33 pulley(stock one for the s trim). [/div]Sotck S-trim is pullied at 3.60 and 3.48 pending the model.3.33 s-trim should produce a little more than 355. More like 400 (especially with other mods ???)
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Well there is no BS coming from here. 140,000 mile stock motor with the 3.33 vortech non intercooled s trim. 1993 computer, Kooks headers +2.5" fabbed duals + true x and stock 96 intake + tb, stock ignition ,90 mm MAF and fabricated 4" power pipe. In your opinion where is my lost 50 horsepower ? A/F ratio is 12.5-11 and total timing ends up around 17 degrees. 50 HP is a lot , I would like to hear what your experience can show us to benefit from.
 
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the kenne belle will be far less efficient than a vortech. if the kenne belle for our cars could be had with an intercooler, i'd be far more apt to consider it, but for ease of installation and overall power/efficiency, i'd go with a centrifugal type supercharger, such as the vortech. Just more bang/buck, IMO. 6-7 lbs of boost with a vortech will get you an extra 100-125 rwhp, just like they're claiming for the kenne belle.And the amount of money jeremi has into that car is rediculously small. He's got less into his supercharged car than i have in my NA car.
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Kenne Bell responded to some similar concerns in an email to me:

"...The intercooler doesn't help the efficiency of the blower itself but it will help the temperatures in which you can run more boost or timing on the same setup. Just by lowering temperatures you won't gain hp you gain hp by raising timing or boost. As far as ease of installation it's only about a 4-6 hour job for our kit as you are basically just replacing the intake manifold. He is right about getting the same hp increase at the same amount of boost. You can't just look at hp increase overall with our kit though. Look at the torque curve and hp curve we make more power and torque down in the powerband. If you were racing on the same setup for both kits the KB would win as it has more power down low. For street use a lot customers love our kit as you don't have to wind up the motor to get the vehicle moving. It's instaneous power. For race use a centrifugal might be better as you are in the upper rpms but then a turbo is more efficient than a centrifugal. He is correct that if our kit had an intercooler it would be better but we would have to redesign the whole kit to get and intercooler setup on it. Hope this helps you out better. Thank you, KB..."

Due to his apparently honest response, I would be more apt to go with a KB now more than ever. As he says, the KB would be prefered in a daily driver, which is what I am looking for. It also helps to have good power down low with my stock 3.07 gearing. (I can sense some of you scratching your heads, "...he's got 3.07 gears with an Eaton posi, 3000 stall converter, and an Art Car tranny?!?..." This is just the way I decided to build up my car...I'm funny that way.) Just thinking about the launch in drags makes me salivate somewhat...

Over the phone, he said that the kit for the Mustangs should work on our cars with very little modification, though he admits he has never seen one installed on a Mark. The nice thing about living in LA is that there are plenty of good speed shops who can do the install properly...

Lastly, I sent an email to Vortech asking them the same questions but never received a response. That makes me wonder...
 
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Would this vortech fit?

4FK218-080SQ 1998 4V Mustang SQ SC-Trim-Satin $3559.99


Chad
 
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