Brake performance

I've been staring at that chart some more and noticed that the 4.6 Conti uses both styles of brake pads...the ones in your picture, and the ones designated for Mark VIIIs - the smaller flangeless style.

I wonder if EBC goofed on these charts...
 
As a matter of fact DP41166R is the Yellowstuff part number listed for the Continental. (Based on the cross reference sheet you provided).

Yes...I made a logical guess based on the same greenstuff pad being used on both the Mark VIII and the 4.6 Conti.

If you bring up the pics of all the pads for the 4.6 Conti, you'll see two pads of the 'Mustang' style, and two pads of the Mark VIII style. It's possible that both styles would work in the same caliper, but I doubt it. I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, but I think EBC's chart may be wrong...or the pads you recieved might actually work in the Mark.

Anyone with experience in brakes on the 4.6 Conti?
 
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Ya, i dont see how thae conti or mark could use both styles... it must be a mistake, the mark pads dont even habe the flanges on them
 
I had the KVR pads/rotors before the hubswap & Cobra brake upgrade. I liked them.

How much of an increase in stopping power would you say?

Right now from 55mph I can stand on the pedal and never get any of the tires to slide. However im not sure if the ABS causes that or not, it's been my experience that the ABS only kicks in once it's detected the wheel no longer spinning. Also an ABS light comes on. But I suppose the ABS could be trigger by the sudden application of brakes. This is the first car I've actually owned with ABS.

btw I did order the stock size front cross drilled rotors from SCP.
 
So basically it's down to either the Greenstuff's or the KVRs... which one would have a better bite?

Greenstuff has just about the highest coefficient of friction of any pads - meaning most bite. Having ceramic in them also means fade is impossible to reach.

However, they are rather dusty. I don't know how KVRs perform, but they are probably less dusty if that is a requirement.
 
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logres said:
So basically it's down to either the Greenstuff's or the KVRs... which one would have a better bite?

Greenstuff has just about the highest coefficient of friction of any pads - meaning most bite. Having ceramic in them also means fade is impossible to reach.

However, they are rather dusty. I don't know how KVRs perform, but they are probably less dusty if that is a requirement.

Dust is ok with me as long as i can put a decent amount of confidence in my stopping capabilitys.
 
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Dust is ok with me as long as i can put a decent amount of confidence in my stopping capabilitys.

That won't be a problem.

But I almost forgot. What kind of rotors are you using? The Greenstuff runs really hot, and I warped my former $20 Autozone specials within 2 weeks. The frozen rotors I replaced them with have withstood the heat though.
 
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To update... I installed the Greenstuffs with the KVR cross-drilled rotord tonight, and i HIGHLY recomend. Braking performance feels as if it has increased by a good 20% at least.
 
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To update... I installed the Greenstuffs with the KVR cross-drilled rotord tonight, and i HIGHLY recomend. Braking performance feels as if it has increased by a good 20% at least.

Wait until they get bedded-in...then the real stopping will begin.
 
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Well i just did the front brake hoses and i must say the brales re even better now :) i can do a panic dtop from 40 in just under a car length
 
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ok maybe it just seemed like a car length i didnt acutally measure. i was just in the car and slammed on the brakes from 40 when the front of the car was even with a light post. when i was stopped it looked as though the rear bumper was still behind the post. i do a more accurate measure next week. right now im drinking :)
 
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But glancing at the equation on that site two questions arise... first what is "g" and how is vehicle mass not taken into effect?
 
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But glancing at the equation on that site two questions arise... first what is "g" and how is vehicle mass not taken into effect?

'g' is either 9.8 m/s^2 or 32 ft/s^2...acceleration contant for gravity.

And mass is not seen in the formula because it cancels itself out in the coefficient of friction...ie mass of the car equally affects its momentum and the force it applies to the street via the tires.
 
Plus that equation calculates the shortest theoretical stopping distance, not the actual stopping distance. Actual stopping distance calculations would factor in the weight of the car.
 
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