Question on Firing order 2001 SVT 4.6 v.s Mark VIII 4.6

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The pic i whiped up in MS paint so its kind of lowtech. I looked up the 1995 Linc Mark VIII and it shows a picture of it mounted transverse with the front going off the side. I assume this is a misprint in their manual, or i have never seen a sideways mounted 4.6. This brings up doubts on the true firing order of the mark viii. I know 2 fire at once with the old coils and the new COP setup, but i want to be sure.

The 2001 Mustang SVT 4.6 DOHC shows firing order the same.

I want to be absolutely sure before i wire in the COPs the cylinder numbers and the firing order. If this is right then im all set cause i got the right set of COP's from Summitt about 2 weeks ago. Now i got some time to do it this weekend if nothing else pops up.
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They probably has it mounted transverse for the conti's with the 4.6. I'm not sure of the firing order off the top of my head but I will try to check tonight. Let me know how the COP conversion goes, I have all the stuff to do it to my 95 I just haven't' yet.
 
Then i found this in anothers post....

Then i found this in anothers post....

Thanks Driller for posting it. Ill go ahead with the svt diagram since the Mark VIII's is the same coils and cylinder numbers. There both the same.
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Thanks to Jeremi for original post.

Thanks to Jeremi for original post.

It was easy as pie once i found out what factory wires were the negative EEC side triggers to the Coil On Plugs. Then just use his system like in the post. Heres some pics. I still have to wire them in, but they are all prechaceked with Ohm Meter and all have perfect connections from tracing them out. I basicly wired mine to have all the NEG side triggers from the EEC on drivers side, and the incomming power +12V leads on the passenger side separated in banks 1-6, and 3-5 which was the old power for the old right coil. And then the 4-7 and the 2-8 powers together that was the originall left side coil. Slapped the Caps in the rear because i want them out of sight by the firewall.
Havent fired them up yet, but it works on paper and pre-bench testing. Hope its right. lol Ill have them in the convoluted tubing also when i get it all done.

I'll leave them the way they are for now in case we want to change something from the tuning. heres some pics.
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Got a little bit more done this weekend.

Got a little bit more done this weekend.

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Started yanking out the stock fuel lines for the braided ones to go in.
While i was in there i did a little cleaning of leaves and dried mud and dirt that accumulated behind the jute matting behind the plastic shroud in fender.
This insulating matting needs to be cleaned out and trimmed off at bottom to allow water to escape out bottom or youre asking for rust troubles down the road with moisture sitting up in there with leaves and dirt.
You can see mine was wet at bottom and holding water, leaves and dirt not allowing the water to escape and dry. And mines been stationary out of the rain for the last year or so.
Luckily i caught it early and no rust started yet. Cleaned it out and shot it with my fav rustoleum black. :wink: This is where ill join the braided to the stock factory lines, till im ready to upgrade to braided all the way back to the tank.
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Thanks guys.

Thanks guys.

sal329 said:
The engine looks great. I want C heads and the99/01 Cobra intake. Was the wiring difficult?
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No wiring is difficult when you have a schematic. Its just time consuming thinking ahead preplanning where you want the component, and how much length of wire to add to each channel. I started out with Jerimi's original COP post about how to wire coil on plug system in place of our coil packs and plug wires. Then you get a schematic of your particular Mark VIII harness and work backwards to match up all the trigger grounds and put the +12V power leads where you want them to be.

Ill have more pics tonight after i finish the braided line install for the fuel rails. Dear Jesus, my fingers look like swiss cheese with little stab marks and scrapes from the braided lines. I would not want to make braided lines for a living, unless i had a jig set in a vise that automaticly closes sleeves on ends to keep them from ravelling apart before you get the nipple on it. I used tape, but it only goes so far.
What i think is needed for someone doing this all time is a tool setup like a battery post enlarger pliers with very thin rounded metal sleeves on it similar to feeler gauge flexible metal, to "shoehorn" it into anodized nipple fitting with lube.
Otherwise, if its not perfect, its going to ravel apart at end, and youll have to cut the stinking hose again to get smooth edge.
 
Look at the sticky note at the top of the electrical forum!!!! Explore this Forum...there are required along with nice-to-info all over it!!!!
 
Yep, beat me too it Budpytco for kudos to your library link. :D It saved the day. Going back there now cause i found a 2 socket female connector i have no idea where it goes. (this things been down for toooo long lol)
I'm going to check the coolant temp sensor wiring colors before i lengthen it to reach up front to the crossover tube.
 
Yep it was the coolant sensor connector....

Yep it was the coolant sensor connector....

connector. This brings up another question.
On our Mark, we had two coolant temp sensors if i remember correctly, and also on the cobra crossover tube i had,
1. One of the sensors has a male threaded post comming out of it, with a single wire going back to the EEC.
2. The other one has the two prong socket fitting with connector.

Is the single post just an old outdated sensor i pulled off the Mark from 95 ?
My new crossover tube has the two holes for two sensors also, but now im wondering why one of the sensors has only a single wire running from it.

The schematics for the years, say nothing about 2 sensors, much less a single lead unit. It was working fine with my old crossover coolant tube, or i was unaware and one of the sensors was turned off when we tuned it.

Anyone else have the single wire sensor along with the two wire sensor?
Im going out to garage to take pics of what im talking about.
Ill include the original mark tube, the 2001 cobra tube, and the new procharger crossover tube lined up next to each other.
 
ok, heres the sensor i was talking about.

ok, heres the sensor i was talking about.

Has one wire on it. The other one has two with a socket.
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The two wire sensor goes to this socket. Why is the other one only one wire?

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Heres the pics of the three different crossovers.

Heres the pics of the three different crossovers.

First blue one is the factory 95 Mark VIII.
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Black one is a 2001 SVT Cobra that was modded to take the two mark VIII sensors. (it only came with one hole on the right originally)
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Third one on car, is the new procharger one they sent me to clear the charger.
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Jeff....the OBD2 cars use a two wire sensor, one for the ECM and one for the guage.
 
The EEC-IV cars had two sensors - one for the PCM and one for the temp gauge. The single post connector sensor is for the temp gauge and the 2 pin connector one is for the PCM.
 
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