Wireless taser is coming
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You're talking about the XREP? Seen it already and I'm not really impressed. 
http://www.taser.com/products/law/Pages/XREP.aspx
Its a cool idea, but the chances of "disconnect" are pretty high. I have a less-lethal shotgun that shoot bean bags that is VERY affective at long range.
http://www.taser.com/products/law/Pages/XREP.aspx
Its a cool idea, but the chances of "disconnect" are pretty high. I have a less-lethal shotgun that shoot bean bags that is VERY affective at long range.
7 sek mark
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it seems pretty well thought out it hits you and sticks in then when you go to grab for it it bites you there too. it seems like a pretty nasty little bugger. i could still see the bean bags being more effective and A LOT cheaper than these little super computers your shooting at the guy.
You like billy clubs better?
the billy club has more of a personal level to it.lol.... no fun in guns. but, if a lethal threat is directed towards you, i can see where this would be the weapon of choice unless your a good shot and take out a kneecap or shoulder from the offender... always a fine line there though....
jbird97
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Thanks man.
I'd rather see the bean bag guns that they already have. I've heard way too many stories of cops going overboard and tasing the **** out of someone, sometimes to death. I'm sure many times it has been a useful tool, but it can be taken way out of hand. If someone is large enough of a threat to be killed, then thats what the gun is for. For lesser tasks there should be very little chance of death. Beating someone with a billy club, or shooting with bags, no matter how much will cause bruises. I'd rather be bruised than dead. (Sure beating could cause internal bleeding and bluntforce trauma, but thing of how much energy it takes to get to that point, compared with pushing a button, I would think most people would stop beating before death)
I'd rather see the bean bag guns that they already have. I've heard way too many stories of cops going overboard and tasing the **** out of someone, sometimes to death. I'm sure many times it has been a useful tool, but it can be taken way out of hand. If someone is large enough of a threat to be killed, then thats what the gun is for. For lesser tasks there should be very little chance of death. Beating someone with a billy club, or shooting with bags, no matter how much will cause bruises. I'd rather be bruised than dead. (Sure beating could cause internal bleeding and bluntforce trauma, but thing of how much energy it takes to get to that point, compared with pushing a button, I would think most people would stop beating before death)
Misanthropy
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yea just shoot the legs with bean bags lol. They showed us those when I was in like 5th grade. Nasty little buggers, but better than rubber bullets I guess.
Its not trigger happy, its called officer safety. Why get within reach of the bad guy when I can taze him from 25 feet?
If lethal force is justified (guy pointing his gun at you) why the **** would you shoot at his kneecap?!!?!??!?
First of all, there have been NO deaths caused by a taser deployment or mis-use. The taser doesn't electricute the person, it immobilizes them. There was one guy that O.D.'d on PCP and he had to be tased to be be subdued, but he died later at the hospital....from the drug overdose.
Second, you could kill someone a lot easier with a bean bag to the eye/neck/spine/etc. vs. using a taser. Heck, in Florida or somewhere a guy got tased IN THE EYE!(dart actually stuck in eyeball) and he was fine and didn't even go blind.
I don't understand how you justify the use of a GUN vs. a non-lethal taser. Let me put it in perspective, would you rather go "hands on" with your "billy-club" with this guy or just taze him from 15 feet and not even have to get your uniform dirty?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Mf81w_lbQ
Or this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohWPU9kql8E&feature=related
OMG! Lmao!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGzDUUtuyJE&feature=related
Misanthropy
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Yea, I'm cool off all. That big black dude took that **** good though.
Sierra3
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hahah ewwww
hahah ewwww
lesson learned here...lol
1. DO NOT GRAB the projectile once shot. Just lye there peeing your pants uncontrollably while they cuff ya. Or you can wear silicone sheeting sewn into a kevlar thinweave vest. It can just hang there stuck onto the kevlar with no path of current till touched on the backside. Then run to a tree and rub up on it to knock it off while it discharges into the sap. haha
2. And not make the officer draw that thing in the first place. lol
" I said on the ground with hands behind the back!!!" Ok, whats so hard with complying with that order people? Just let him cuff ya and sort it out with your lawyer later if you were in the right. All he wants to do is cuff ya to eliminate a possible attack and crowd controll, so he can move onto the next target. Just chill out in the back of the patroll car and don't be a jerk.
I say the officer has the right to protect himself at his choice with a raging drunk or druggie twice his size. This projectile bullet thing will never have to be deployed on a normal coherent thinking individual anyways. I still think the old fashioned cord model still kicks but. makes your teeth feel like your licking a 9 volt battery with a tinny taste for hours afterwards. not a nice feeling.
haha
hahah ewwww
You're talking about the XREP? Seen it already and I'm not really impressed.
http://www.taser.com/products/law/Pages/XREP.aspx
Its a cool idea, but the chances of "disconnect" are pretty high. I have a less-lethal shotgun that shoot bean bags that is VERY affective at long range.
lesson learned here...lol
1. DO NOT GRAB the projectile once shot. Just lye there peeing your pants uncontrollably while they cuff ya. Or you can wear silicone sheeting sewn into a kevlar thinweave vest. It can just hang there stuck onto the kevlar with no path of current till touched on the backside. Then run to a tree and rub up on it to knock it off while it discharges into the sap. haha
2. And not make the officer draw that thing in the first place. lol
" I said on the ground with hands behind the back!!!" Ok, whats so hard with complying with that order people? Just let him cuff ya and sort it out with your lawyer later if you were in the right. All he wants to do is cuff ya to eliminate a possible attack and crowd controll, so he can move onto the next target. Just chill out in the back of the patroll car and don't be a jerk.
I say the officer has the right to protect himself at his choice with a raging drunk or druggie twice his size. This projectile bullet thing will never have to be deployed on a normal coherent thinking individual anyways. I still think the old fashioned cord model still kicks but. makes your teeth feel like your licking a 9 volt battery with a tinny taste for hours afterwards. not a nice feeling.
haha
LMAO! That is awesome!
I couldn't have said it better myself.
The normal person doesn't need to get tased to comply. I've ALMOST tased someone....he was 5150 all the way. He was walking on the on-ramp, pulling big weeds and chucking them around, and talking to his imaginary brother Brian. He started swinging at the medic's we called to take him to the hospital so I drew out and he calmed down, but not because of my taser, because everyone backed away and that Brian guy was talking to him. LOL.
jbird97
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J, I'm not saying tasers aren't useful, but I've just heard way too many stories about people getting tased way too much (as in multiple times for a single person, I've heard as high as like 15ish). I know its hearsay and I have no evidence, but even in that one "dont tase me bro" I feel that guy was tased unnecessarily to begin with, and tased multiple times. I do consider tasing someone multiple times to be trigger happy. If its meant to immobilize, then use once, which will immobilize and then cuff. It is being electricuted, just one shot is so little electricity is so little that all it does is immobilize, but I can't picture multiple shots not having a negative effect.
As far as injuring someone with a bean bag gun by shooting them in the eye, neck, etc... I thought they teach how to aim a weapon in the acadamy? There should be no reason to hit someone anywhere other than where you are aiming.
I'm not trying to bash police officers at all. But we are all human, and when pissed I could certainly see someone going over the line and over-tasing someone.
As far as injuring someone with a bean bag gun by shooting them in the eye, neck, etc... I thought they teach how to aim a weapon in the acadamy? There should be no reason to hit someone anywhere other than where you are aiming.
I'm not trying to bash police officers at all. But we are all human, and when pissed I could certainly see someone going over the line and over-tasing someone.
Sierra3
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I agree too
I agree too
With that one old video of the big drunk guy getting tazed like a jillion times. He did resist and started fighting despite being heavily outnumbered in which case he deserved the initial deployment. But once down on the ground, they kept screaming at him to put his hand behind his back while hes flopping around like a fish. Crap man, theres no way I could put my hands behind the back after that, I'd be lucky to swallow my spit so i dont suffocate. haha
They should of grabbed his arms at that point and pulled them back themselves. He was lying on the ground face down and they kept shocking him after repeated orders to put hands behind the back, but the idiot kept trying to get up like Rocky or something and kept getting the juice.
I think at that point he probably didnt feel his arms anymore and there was now way he could do it if he wanted to. I think that was the only video i ever saw that had a trigger happy officer working the unit. Or one with no common sense. Once the muscles are nailed like that you cant put your own arms behind back. There basicly spent i believe untill they heal up. Its like working out for hours and having millions of contractions per second in the muscle fibers. haha he was toast after that. I think they should of stopped.
I agree too
With that one old video of the big drunk guy getting tazed like a jillion times. He did resist and started fighting despite being heavily outnumbered in which case he deserved the initial deployment. But once down on the ground, they kept screaming at him to put his hand behind his back while hes flopping around like a fish. Crap man, theres no way I could put my hands behind the back after that, I'd be lucky to swallow my spit so i dont suffocate. haha
They should of grabbed his arms at that point and pulled them back themselves. He was lying on the ground face down and they kept shocking him after repeated orders to put hands behind the back, but the idiot kept trying to get up like Rocky or something and kept getting the juice.
I think at that point he probably didnt feel his arms anymore and there was now way he could do it if he wanted to. I think that was the only video i ever saw that had a trigger happy officer working the unit. Or one with no common sense. Once the muscles are nailed like that you cant put your own arms behind back. There basicly spent i believe untill they heal up. Its like working out for hours and having millions of contractions per second in the muscle fibers. haha he was toast after that. I think they should of stopped.
It does immobilize, but if it actually works as its supposed to and doesn't "disconnect"(ciruit), they will only be immobilized for 5 seconds. After that, you have complete control over your body again. It uses electricity, but its not electricuting you, thats not how it immobilizes you. When the two darts make contact, they create an electrical signal that interupts the nervous system signals that control your body. Basically, it tenses up your muscles so you can't move. If you want to explain it generically, I guess you can "say" its electricuting someone, but in reality, its sending its own electrical pulses to tighten the person's muscles. The same pulses the brain uses. So, to put it in perspective, when you are typing on your computer, your brain is electricuting your fingers.
This is true, but if a guy is jumping around with a knife to his throat and you're trying to shoot him, he could jump right into the non-lethal spot you were aiming at. They train us to aim/shoot, but in a real world scenario, anything could happen. You're NOT going to kill someone with a taser, its a proven fact. Search on YouTube. All the death claims are from what happens when the people get tazed, i.e. "guy on roof gets tazed, falls off roof onto head and dies".
Seeing this first hand, in person, there is NO reason a person can't function after "the ride". Once the pulsing stops, you have complete mobility and would be able to comply.
Perfect example of how fast you recover after being hit. Here the "popping" from the taser, he didn't even get a complete connection by the probes (called "disconnect"). If he had complete connection, you would barely hear the taser and he wouldn't have been able to move at all. I'd say this was probably 80%. All the taser training we've had, you can competely function after the 5 seconds, which is why we're taught to handcuff WHILE the subject is being tased.
This guy is just drunk and doesn't want to cooperate. This is a good training video and I we can all sit here and backrow quarterback how it should have been done, but I think it was completely legit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGZK0n4lcl4
I am much more for a citizen's right during police encounters than an officer's. I am one of the few people I know who would never admit guilt during a traffic stop, and who has exercised my 5th amendment rights during one. (Never been in a situation that'd lead to an arrest thankfully, although I'd do it there too.)
That said I sure as hell would rather be tazed and have no bruises than possibly get hit with a billy club or an asp and end up unconscious or with broken bones.
EDIT: I want to add that I would never resist arrest, so would never be put in that type of situation. I am not afraid of arrests I am afraid of convictions lol
That said I sure as hell would rather be tazed and have no bruises than possibly get hit with a billy club or an asp and end up unconscious or with broken bones.
EDIT: I want to add that I would never resist arrest, so would never be put in that type of situation. I am not afraid of arrests I am afraid of convictions lol
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I die laughing every time I see this. ARGHHHH falls flat down.
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What about this guy, regardless of what the 16 year old kid says who posted it, do you think he acted appropriately?
It should be known before answering that in many states, including Florida, you will be arrested for refusing to sign a ticket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=IMaMYL_shxc
In my opinion the cop did not act reasonably as it is not common knowledge. It seems like this whole thing could have been arrested if he simply said if you don't sign the ticket I am going to arrest you. Even though he brandished the taser he should have said if you don't comply I am going to tase you. If he warned him and he still didn't comply then tase him.
J, for the CHP, do you have to issue some sort of verbal warning or can you tase them if they start to walk away as soon as you say they are under arrest?
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