'03-'05 Aviator intake fitment

markup97

Lost in Translation
Being I am swapping to C-heads, my question is: Will the '03-'05 Aviator intake fit under the hood of a Gen2? I am assuming NO as it is considerably taller than both the 96-98 Cobra intake and the 99-01 Cobra/03-04 Mach1 intakes.

Also, I know the top plate of the aviator would need to be modified to run our throttle bodies as they are round-TB versus oval-TB.
 

tixer

Lincoln Evangelist
First thought: "there's only one way to find out!"

second thought: can you get measurements? I don't know how much clearance the gen2 hood has with the Cobra intake, but if it is, as you say, "considerably taller," I wouldn't be optimistic.
 

markup97

Lost in Translation
That would require me buying the intake, and if it doesn't fit I am stuck with it AND out $50........ :)
 

Lvnmarks

quandoomniflunkusmoritati
Break out the Playdough, close the hood to get your clearance measurement.

If you can find an Aviator in the yard you can measure the distance of the intake from the block, then do the same measurement on the mark.

Mike's right though, no one has done it (to my knowledge) so you might just have to take a gamble.
 

markup97

Lost in Translation
That is what I was thinking, Chris.

However, it would give me an excuse to integrate a 'Power Bulge' into the hood like the newer BMWs!
 

Mad1stGen

Booster
Like one of those ?



It definitely does not fit under a g2 hood. It won't even fit under g1 cowl hood. It's a tall SOB.

Not sure why you'd want to run it anyway. The Avi lower intake has variable runners controlled by the Aviator PCM (variable though, not on off like IMRC), so to take a full advantage of it you'd need a custom controller.

On top of that it's not very RPM happy. You're better off with a C head Cobra intake. Much better.

Few years ago local Karkfraft was testing a front TB mount hat for the avi lower intakes to mimic the Cobra R setup. It never made production though.

 
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markup97

Lost in Translation
I have been reading up pretty extensively on these intakes. Some of the Mach1/Cobra guys (NAZMAN and Angus in particular) have done a lot of work with these intakes and got them to flow well with runner work, runner shortening/reshaping, and custom lids. They also seem to be having some luck with rpm window switches activating the Intake runner tune valves (IMRCs in our ride) and running them as IMRCs. They are experiencing the 'Mid-rpm blues' as the transition between runners drops velocity and therefore torque/horsepower. They boys are also seeing the same with FR500 intakes. They have also seen more/less drop based on the cam profiles/timing used and the weights/trans/gears combos. Being our beasts are heavy autos (the very parameters the the AVI intake was designed to run for), it may be a viable intake for the MKVIII/C-head swap if we can get lids to fit under our hoods. That custom front-feed was being developed back in 05-08 but never made it to production as demand was just not there. With the FR500 intake and the advent of the Mach1/Marauder intakes and their ability for port work, the Aviator was basically left sucking wind.

Reason I am thinking of the Aviator intake is I have C-heads and finding a good 99-01/03-04 intake here for reasonable is next to none. I can get the complete Aviator intake for $50 and modify at my leisure. It, combined with long tubes, 96-98 Cobra cams with the ability to adjust timing via timing gears, and 4:10 trac-lock, the intake should work for good torque and horsepower.
 
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Ford nut

New member
Carlos used a mach 1 intake and advanced his cobra cams a full six degrees and came out with some dam good numbers on the dyno, cant quote the numbers but they were better the a b head cobra intake, cobra cam combo. Its a proven combo and I think worth the extra $350 to hunt the boards and get a blue dot cobra /mach 1 intake.
 

markup97

Lost in Translation
I have '03 Aviator heads, 96-98 Cobra cams, and long-tube headers waiting to find their way into my 97 MKVIII. The intake is holding me up. I got an '03 Aviator intake today that will be modified to work/fit under the hood and use a stock TB (LOTS of work to make that happen). Good thing I have lots of time!

From the intake port-to-head mating surface to the top of the TB (on the Aviator intake) it is 11". The intake itself is 15" total height.
 
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