Answer to our gas problems. Perendev Motor

[Sierra3]

I want one of these modded with 8 rotors instead of 4 attached to my trannsmission. Think of it. No exhaust, no cooling system, no oil, no noise....only required maintenance would be some gear oil and a carwash for the magnets occasionally. Fix it to a potientiometer to the gas pedal for regulator of speed. Pretty sweet.

http://www.perendev-power.com/My_Homepage_Files/Page4.html

 

[sleeper]

no free lunch

that looks like an electric motor to me. there's zero technical info on the site

you'd still need energy storage (batteries or fuel cell), cooling, and lubrication.

 

[sleeper]

What i'm hearing is that this is some sort of perpetual motion device. something out with nothing in.

I don't buy it for a minute.

 

[Sierra3]

I agree its a long way off for being practical for automotive use, but think what you could power in the yard with it? It'll beat the heck out of my Honda generator thats for sure. Just couple it to a generator of your choice and plug your gizmos into it.
I'm not sure the link to the blueprints still work, I saved them along time ago when this first hit the web. It's basicly a center rotor with north poles of magnets set in pinwheel fashion, with exterior rotor in same fashon just adjusted off center in a conical fading out spiral pattern. So, one interior magnet goes by and gets pushed to the dead zone with no magnet, then its 2nd in line takes a push and goes into dead zone, and on and on. (When you watch the slow motion computer generated cad video, it is basicly three pushing phases or pulses on each side of the rotor. They just hit push phase a little after the first one hits.) untill the outside rotor is pulled back. The closer it is the faster it goes. Check out the video. Theres three running ones out now. Looks like they have upgraded again and the old style is being changed for a more efficient one.

 

[sleeper]

So where do the magnets get their energy?

 

[Sierra3]

Magnets get their energy from the earth's North and South poles. It is never ending. A magnet will contine to have its field untill it is reprogrammed to flow in another direction or the material itself wears out and disolves from erosion. As long as the Earth itself maintains a magnetic field, so will all the magnets around the world. The iron magnet or substrate isnt really a magnet at all, its a piece of metal that the magnetic field of the Earth flows through like an antenna. A commmon magnet just has all its poles of its particles all aligned up to share a common north and south pole is all, and we call it a magnet. It can also be taken out or reversed as well from what ive read.

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[apbpetey]

Doesn't Disney use magnets for some of their stuff? I saw a show on some behind the scenes stuff at Disney World and I believe they are using Magnets for some of their attractions. It might have been used on their new coaster at MGM I think it's called the rock n roller coast I know it is a Aerosmith based coaster. Also from the way the show was talking it looked liked the monorail system they have is also powered by Magnets. They stated that speed can be controlled by how fast the magents are turned on and off or something along those lines. Man, I should have paid more attention to the show.

 

[Bill Eynon III]

For the coasters that launch such as Rockin Roller Coaster at Disney they use a LIM system. Linear Induction Motors in tech speak. These require a great ammount of electrical power to run as the magnets used are electrified at a high pulsation to create pole switching. Thus repelling and pulling the cars forward on the track. Hope that helps. Here is a link all about that Coaster at Disney:
http://www.wdwmagic.com/tech.htm

 

[logres]

Some other high end coasters use pnuematic springs (Xellerator at Knott's - That goes 0-90 mph in about 1 second...not kidding. They warn people to NOT put their arms up during launch. The idiots who do can't move their arms for a few minutes afterwards and some folks rip ligaments), or flywheels (some coasters at Six Flags that launch really hard). I'd like to see the clutch they use for that...

 

[sleeper]

Magnets don't magically stay magnetized forever. They are exposed to a magnetic field during manufacture, which requires energy. If you are not using electromagnets, you will not get enough useful torque out of the motor, at least not for any length of time at a reasonable weight.

Like i said, no free lunch. Magnets aren't magical.

 

[Sierra3]

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Magnets don't magically stay magnetized forever. They are exposed to a magnetic field during manufacture, which requires energy. If you are not using electromagnets, you will not get enough useful torque out of the motor, at least not for any length of time at a reasonable weight.Like i said, no free lunch. Magnets aren't magical.
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I never said it was a free lunch, of course it has to run out sometime. It has to use "some" power to be converted into something else. I bought some welding rod (what he used to tune the original magnets) and a smathering of iron widgets and alnico magnets to do some experimenting using their theories. I'm not sure how they are powering them. I havent been able to track down one of the guys to talk with him. Most of the replies i got were from the other tinkerers on the Keely website. i wanted to know how it got recharged after the magnets wore down. I assume there using some type of high powered Alnico magnets, Its the angle of displacement that makes the force to turn the wheel, not power of any sort. So of course when the magnets field wears off or gets depolarazed, (how do you recharge it?) i also wanted to know what RPM you could spin it at before the magnets came dislodged from rotor with centrifigul force. The video said they were governing it at 3500 RPM and back down to 0. I just thought it was cool as heck that you could do it with magnets. Give them about 3 or 4 more years and im sure a solid one will be built with speed controlled governor for public sale. Or the big power companies will buy them out to keep thier mouths shut about it and let it fade away with all the other cool inventions and suppressed technology. John Worrell Keely and Nicola Tesla had more than their fair share of gizmos that i like.

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