Good idea Mike. I guess the only way I'll sell them on a lot of Lincoln sites, is to find "the give away section". In the spring I'll get the CE out or storage, address the little stuff it needs, and keep it, leaving me a nice pair of CE's. Still thinking about the 97, what to do? I'm starting to look in the barter section on CL. For 10 years,I've been putting off playing golf, and I'm going for sure this year. ( played a lot when I lived in CA ) I'm sure there's a butt out there that wants to sit in one of these seats. Good things take time. TONYyyyYou should have titled this the "Mark VIII Collector's Starter Kit."