money for christmas

[7 sek mark]

ok so i just got 20k for christmas and my car is going to change a bit now. so here is what i have planned to do let me know if i should do any differnt. im not going to spend all of it on my car and im not going to go super wild with it.

1: 3.73 gears
2: some type of locker (any thing better than the trac-loc?)
3: jet hot coated kooks headers
4: full true duel exhaust
5: polly bushings from the tranny cross member back
6: maby cobra intake (what sort of power gains can i look for from this?)

7 8 9... anything else im lookang to keep this farley mild. ya i know i could have a blower set up for that kinda cash but im not looking for all out just yet. im olny 19 so i want a quick car that i know i can controll and not hurt my self with. ill work my way up in power i dont want to go from stock to 600 hp in a week i want to get used to it.

PS: i have a 93 parts car with a one peace drive shaft is that worth swaping in? how much better is it than my 94 2 peace shaft?

 

[7 sek mark]

oh i also plan on either msd, accel, or screamen demon coils and msd wires for her any better options? who has used what and how do you like them? do you think they are worth what you payed for whatever you have?

 

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2: some type of locker (any thing better than the trac-loc?) i have a 93 parts car with a one peace drive shaft is that worth swaping in? how much better is it than my 94 2 peace shaft?
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If you plan on going big HP, you'll want the Eaton posi or Detroit locker. I have the Eaton, and driller has the Detroit. We both like what we have.

As for the driveshaft, you may want to do that since you are putting in gears. You could put the gears in first and see how it drives. If there is too much vibration for you, you can install the 93 shaft later.

 

[logres]

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oh i also plan on either msd, accel, or screamen demon coils and msd wires for her any better options? who has used what and how do you like them? do you think they are worth what you payed for whatever you have?
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I've got the Demon packs and Nology wires. I'm probably in the minority regarding the Nology, but I'll swear by them...figuratively speaking. The lifetime warranty doesn't hurt either, and our cars tend to eat up plug wires.

 

[7 sek mark]

will the 93 shaft be ok with 4.10's or would i need the mmx shaft for anything past 3.73's? thats why i said 3.73's so it would save me the $400 or so for a new drive shaft but if the 93 shaft will work then ill go 4.10. i already have a 3600 stall in my garage wating to go in.

right now im pulling the rear end of my parts car apart to put the new bushings in that way all i have to do is swap parts to keep the down time to a min. ill probley install the gears and bushings in one weekend and the trans mount bushings and TC another weekend.

who makes the Nology wires or where can i get them? are they the ones from super coupe performance?

 

[driller]

Your Santa was much better than mine!

I went with 4.10s thinking my '93 driveshaft would be OK. I ended up going with the MMx driveshaft and it was worth every penny.

Not to blow my own horn, but you can click on the link in my sig for my home page which lists the mods I have done naturally aspirated.

The spark plug wires from supercoupe performance are not Nology wires, but very good from what I hear.

A good intake such as the Cobra intake along with headers should get you 25 HP plus.

I like your 'one step at a time' attitude. I see too many young drivers get in over their heads power-wise when it comes to modding cars.

 

[7 sek mark]

ya i like most others beleave that i could handle a 600hp car but i dont wanna try and kill my self. and who needs a 600 hp daily driver any ways its just going to suck gas like a mother. i would love to get 350-400 hp out of this with out going to wild and blowing to much money on it. i would rather get made fun of cuz my car is not as fast as theres is then wad my $6000 motor up on a tree.

all i want out of this car is just a quick street car that i can drive in the rain with out to much trouble. in a bit when i want something fast i will look for a cheep f-body and build that for a weekend car getting like 8-9 MPG. yes i know i said f-body but everyone knows chevys are cheeper and easer to build than fords are cuz there a dime a dozen!

 

[Eli]

Torque converter.

3.73 is not enough gear. My recommendation is 4.10 or 4.30. Make sure your custom exhaust is built correctly. If it's full of press bends it won't free up any power at all. Good luck.

 

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who makes the Nology wires or where can i get them?
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www.lincolnmotorsport.com

 

[logres]

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and who needs a 600 hp daily driver any ways its just going to suck gas like a mother.
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You can boost a Mark VIII and still get the about the same mileage.

Mileage will depend on your foot...

 

[7 sek mark]

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Torque converter. 3.73 is not enough gear. My recommendation is 4.10 or 4.30. Make sure your custom exhaust is built correctly. If it's full of press bends it won't free up any power at all. Good luck.
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ya but see the my only reson for not going to 4.10's is that i can save the money for the drive shaft for something else. could i put in 3.90's and still be ok with my stock 1 piece shaft?

 

[Eli]

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[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]Torque converter. 3.73 is not enough gear. My recommendation is 4.10 or 4.30. Make sure your custom exhaust is built correctly. If it's full of press bends it won't free up any power at all. Good luck.[/div]ya but see the my only reson for not going to 4.10's is that i can save the money for the drive shaft for something else. could i put in 3.90's and still be ok with my stock 1 piece shaft?
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You will want a driveshaft anyway. Buy the right gears the first time and invest in your hapiness.

 

[7 sek mark]

will the 4.10's hurt my high way crusing much? about 2-3 times a month some friends and i got the inter state going to car shows crusing 90-100mph for about 30-45 min. would any high speed balanced shaft work of is there something specal about the MMX shaft?

also will the x-cal 2 work on gen 1 cars? or is there any other tuner that will work or is my only option a chip?

 

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will the 4.10's hurt my high way crusing much? about 2-3 times a month some friends and i got the inter state going to car shows crusing 90-100mph for about 30-45 min. would any high speed balanced shaft work of is there something specal about the MMX shaft?also will the x-cal 2 work on gen 1 cars? or is there any other tuner that will work or is my only option a chip?
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The 4.10's will affect cruising, but not by much unless you have an aggressive exhaust note, and if you can keep your cruising under 80 mph (your rpms at 100 mph with 4.10 gears will be around 3700, which can't be good for the engine over long periods of time). Gas mileage will only drop 1-2 mpg at most. JP's got 4.30 gears in his daily driver with custom exhaust, so it can't be that bad.

I don't think there is anything special with the MMX shaft besides the fact that it may be the only game in town for our cars. Not many folks look to mod out their Lincolns.

As for the tuner, I believe there is one for EEC-IV, but I could be wrong. The best place to look would be Lonnie's site at www.blueovalchips.com.

 

[driller]

I agree with the limits on cruising speed... my 'cruising' is 75-80 mph and my 4.30s is as steep as I wanted to go. My recommendation is if 90-100 mph cruising is important to you, I would stay with stock gears... changing to anything less than 3.73s would not be worth it.

The MMX shaft is a high strength aluminum alloy - stronger and lighter than other available options.

About the only 'tuner' I know of for EEC-IV is Tweecer RT. The SCT Xcal units are for OBD-II. Regardless, IMHO the place to go is Blue Oval Chips.

 

[7 sek mark]

thats cool i can keep it down to 80 or so but probey see 100 while passing. we dont do it that much but i would still like to get up there. there is a place here that can make any shaft with any ends on it for about $250-300 and they have a high speed balancer. it is actuley a semi shop so they can do anything from 2" up to about 5-6" in od i was thinking about 3-4" for mine. they can make steel or alum ill stick with alum tho. has anyone tryed the carbon police spec shaft for the crown vic? of is it not the right size for the mark? my dad has a 97 crown and im going to meashure the shafts when i get home cuz now i wanna know.

if a just get the gears now (4.10's) and get the shaft made in a bit about what speed will the vibes set in?

 

[sleeper]

20k for christmas?

4.10's
3500 stall
headers, full exhaust
cobra intake

then when you're ready to step up a little further, look at getting a motor built with some ported heads.

Honestly i wouldn't spend the money on upgraded coils and wires. There is not much power to be gained with ignition upgrades, the ignition that comes on the car stock is very good to begin with. Just make sure you have good quality plugs and wires in there and forget about it.

 

[maxmk8]

20k? And you're dumping a good portion of that into the Mark? Maybe there are better uses for the money. For one you can purchase a much faster car than the Mark VIII with that kind of money and not have to deal with modifying.

 

[7 sek mark]

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20k? And you're dumping a good portion of that into the Mark? Maybe there are better uses for the money. For one you can purchase a much faster car than the Mark VIII with that kind of money and not have to deal with modifying.
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thats why im staying modest with it going with bolt ons and i wil mainley keep this for a sorta quick street (going on a date) car and get something else later for my weekend car. im not sure what it will be yet but diffntley chevy cuz it will be cheeper. im not looking to blow $10,000 on the car but i am going to spend some on it. i figure maby $1500-2k on the car to get it about where i would like it.

 

[driller]

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thats cool i can keep it down to 80 or so but probey see 100 while passing. we dont do it that much but i would still like to get up there. there is a place here that can make any shaft with any ends on it for about $250-300 and they have a high speed balancer. it is actuley a semi shop so they can do anything from 2" up to about 5-6" in od i was thinking about 3-4" for mine. they can make steel or alum ill stick with alum tho. has anyone tryed the carbon police spec shaft for the crown vic? of is it not the right size for the mark? my dad has a 97 crown and im going to meashure the shafts when i get home cuz now i wanna know. if a just get the gears now (4.10's) and get the shaft made in a bit about what speed will the vibes set in?
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My experience...

http://www.lincolnsclub.org/forum/d...ic&forum=18&topic_id=5838&mesg_id=5838&page=8

I do not believe the Panther chassis driveshafts are the same.

Good read... http://www.tccoa.com/articles/tranny/transmission/page17.shtml