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driller

driller

El Presidente
I was on my way back home from the Steelers/Browns football game at 1 o'clock in the morning doin' about 75 mph on the interstate. It just went 'squiggly' for a second then started thumpin'.

I immediately recognized it as a blowout and drifted off the side of the four-lane, but there was no safe place to stop. There was only a concrete shoulder with a guard rail and the truck took up the whole width between the guard rail and the white line. So I just slowed to a crawl and hit the 4-ways. A couple hundred yards later was a long bridge with no shoulder and luckily an exit on the other side of the bridge. By that time the damage was done, so I just wheeled it to a closed gas station so I would have some light to change the tire.

It was only like 14 degrees out! xo
 
driller

driller

El Presidente
Oh, it's not a mini-spare. It's a full size tire on a smaller steel wheel. But you make a good point. Except that the dealer has a 'core charge' on the replacement wheel! The price quoted was assuming a core in return. I'll ask Monday about how much of a core charge it is.
 
driller

driller

El Presidente
It just rolled over 10,000 miles while on the spare.

I'll be talking to the dealer Monday, but don't expect much. There didn't appear to be any paint damage. I noticed today the plastic upper shock cover was busted during the ordeal.

There wasn't any road debris or anything. The way it went felt like the belt separated?
 
driller

driller

El Presidente
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"Shades of Firestone" 'cept now it's Michlin.
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Nope. Pirelli.

The spare was a Michelin.
 
Bill Eynon III

Bill Eynon III

New member
Sorry to hear about the bad luck. At least you were able to keep it straight and not have any other damage. Good to know you are alright.
 
Roadboss

Roadboss

On Work Release
Glad your OK JP. Make sure you follow up on inspecting the rest of your tires like Mike suggested. Years ago I ran into rear blow outs with the Firestone Tires. Those type of blow outs aren't funny, especially at high speeds. After the second one I replaced all my tires with a different manufacture.
 
sleeper

sleeper

Former LOD President
my tires are all starting to bulge a little, but they probably are getting near 70k miles.

And i wouldn't tell the insurance company about that one. My dad had a similar problem, brand new bravada w/ 17" or 18" chrome wheels. Hit a piece of angle iron on the highway, it was like $800 between the wheel and tire. Insurance company said that they would count it as an at-fault accident, and the payout would be subject to his deductible. He passed.
 
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logres

New member
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Insurance company said that they would count it as an at-fault accident, and the payout would be subject to his deductible. He passed.
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That's illegal. It should be considered a no-fault, claim only, subject to his deductible.

Report them to the insurance commissioner.
 
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maxmk8

New member
I wonder what happens during these "blow outs" I see that type of blow out mostly on trucks and Vans. Witnessed at least 2 happen right in front of me!!! Van drove straight, didn’t drive over any objects nothing, all the sudden a grey cloud appears around the now separating tire and thread starts flying all over the place.

Cars rarely suffer from that particular damage where the thread separates from the sidewall. Very scary to look at.

Doesn't the F-150 have stability control and electronic rollover protection?
 
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logres

New member
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I wonder what happens during these "blow outs" I see that type of blow out mostly on trucks and Vans. Witnessed at least 2 happen right in front of me!!! Van drove straight, didn’t drive over any objects nothing, all the sudden a grey cloud appears around the now separating tire and thread starts flying all over the place.Cars rarely suffer from that particular damage where the thread separates from the sidewall. Very scary to look at.Doesn't the F-150 have stability control and electronic rollover protection?
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Maybe vans and trucks are driving closer to the maximum weight of their tires? With the number of people who DO NOT maintain proper tire pressure, I can see why blowouts happen. Obviously JP doesn't fall into this category.
 
driller

driller

El Presidente
The truck has no stability control but was quite stable during the event.

The tire and wheel have been replaced and all is well. I had it cleaned and there was no apparent damage to the paint. Now all I have to do is figure out how to stow the jack and handle back in the original location! :+

I've had blowouts before and have had 'goose eggs' form on tires before. I take tire maintenance seriously and am always observant for any road debris to prevent damage. But tire failures will happen and do seem to happen on light trucks/vans more than passenger cars.
 
budpytko

budpytko

Super Senior Associate
"But tire failures will happen and do seem to happen on light trucks/vans more than passenger cars."

....and to travel trailers with Chinese tires....Nanking's to be specific. Avoid these like the plague.


Bud Pytko
'97 LSC Silver Frost
'05 F250 SD CC PSD 4 X 4 AZ Beige
'94 Prowler 5th Wheel
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sleeper

sleeper

Former LOD President
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[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]Insurance company said that they would count it as an at-fault accident, and the payout would be subject to his deductible. He passed.[/div]That's illegal. It should be considered a no-fault, claim only, subject to his deductible.Report them to the insurance commissioner.
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My dad sold insurance for awhile.

WTF is a "no-fault" claim only? Do you mean a comprehensive claim as opposed to a collision claim?

In general, if you're in the car and it's moving, and you hit something, say, a piece of angle iron, or a tree, it's considered a collision claim, and if you're the only driver involved, it's at-fault. In no-fault states, like MI, the insurance company still determines whether you were at fault or not and pays accordingly.

Comprehensive would only cover vandalism, accidental damage when parked, etc.

When I sucked up seaweed in the water intake on my boat last year, and blew the engine, the insurance covered the repair and it went down on my policy as an at-fault accident.
 
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logres

New member
[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]
[div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong][div class="dcquote"][strong]Quote[/strong]Insurance company said that they would count it as an at-fault accident, and the payout would be subject to his deductible. He passed.[/div]That's illegal. It should be considered a no-fault, claim only, subject to his deductible.Report them to the insurance commissioner.[/div]My dad sold insurance for awhile.WTF is a "no-fault" claim only? Do you mean a comprehensive claim as opposed to a collision claim?In general, if you're in the car and it's moving, and you hit something, say, a piece of angle iron, or a tree, it's considered a collision claim, and if you're the only driver involved, it's at-fault. In no-fault states, like MI, the insurance company still determines whether you were at fault or not and pays accordingly.Comprehensive would only cover vandalism, accidental damage when parked, etc.When I sucked up seaweed in the water intake on my boat last year, and blew the engine, the insurance covered the repair and it went down on my policy as an at-fault accident.
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Maybe my situation was different. I was driving down the street when an idiot pulled out of his parking spot right in front of me. I hit him. Realizing it was his fault, he ran away. Hit and run. The insurance company ruled it a "Not-at-fault, claim only". I'm not an insurance expert, but that is what they told me. It goes down on my record as a claim, however I am not at fault. I had to pay the deductible, but they paid the rest of the $3K in damage.

I live in CA if it makes any difference.
 
driller

driller

El Presidente
The insurance laws vary widely state to state.

From experience, I can tell you here in WV, striking road debris with your vehicle is an 'at fault' incident IF the debris is stationary(i.e. laying in the road). However, if the debris is moving, you are not 'at fault' and if no 'at fault' party is identified, your 'no fault' insurance pays(i.e. hitting a deer) BUT it will be on your record and dealt with according to the rules of the individual insurance company.

I'm pretty sure in WV, comprehensive coverage does NOT cover any damages incurred when your vehicle is being driven.
 
Alexander

Alexander

LOD Board of Directors
JP, sorry to hear about the damage to the rim. I am glad you are alright.

My wife had a blowout on her right front tire on her Saturn yesterday morning on the way to the train station. Luckily it happened at low speed just before the station. They were the original Firestone tires from the factory on the '98 Saturn. I thought it was due to dry rot. I opted to replace all four tires, even the car only has 40,000 miles.

It is funny, we were watching "Christmas Story" the previous night and the father in the movie also had a blowout on the right front tire at the same time of the year.

Alexander
Board of Directors
Lincolns of Distinction
 
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