This dude is BAD!

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95MARK8LSC

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That guy's Ok, but he's got to work a little bit on his punching and kicking technique. I would definately hurt him pretty badly.


Thanx for the link.
 
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ONEBADMK8

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That guy's Ok, but he's got to work a little bit on his punching and kicking technique. I would definately hurt him pretty badly.


Thanx for the link.
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Yeah right. I'd SPONSOR that match.
 
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U S Marine

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It's pretty easy to look at a battle and THINK you would do better or what should be done differently. Sitting back watching you have time to assess...ACTUALLY fighting, you don't. Granted, his kicks could be better, however, they seem to be working. I think his edge is that he seems very mentally prepared. Mental rediness will out weigh physical size and physical conditioning every time. You could be a modern day Jack LeLane, physically, but if you're loose in the head it won't really matter. You can either take this from experience or the history books.
 
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DavidCC

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I spend a lot of tmie on martial arts forums since I started training in Kempo.

CroCop is one of the top fighters in the world. One loss to the best Japenes fighter, Nogueira, who got him in a armbar.


http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=715&stc=1

nothing wrong with this kick...
http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=922&stc=1

that losing armbar
http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=663&stc=1

www.martialartsplanet.com

94 Mark VIII, Black / Black
dynoed at 247.5hp / 259.7ft-lb!
 
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DavidCC

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That guy's Ok, but he's got to work a little bit on his punching and kicking technique. I would definately hurt him pretty badly.


Thanx for the link.
Click to expand...

IF you aren't kidding (which Im pretty sure you are), what would you say was the problem with his kicks?

The only thing I see is that he's not pivoting on his planted foot so after 20 years of kicking like that he might damage his knee.


94 Mark VIII, Black / Black
dynoed at 247.5hp / 259.7ft-lb!
 
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flamark

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That video is awsome. What fighting style do they call that.

Police Motto: Be Polite. Be Courteous. Have a plan to hug everyone you meet.
 
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DavidCC

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THe guys that fight that sport have pretty much turned hteir back on styles as most people think of them : karate, Tae Kwon Do, etc. The term they like to use is MMA for "mixed martial arts". They will train muay thai kicking, Brazilian jujitsu grappling, kempo or arnis handwork... stuff like that.



94 Mark VIII, Black / Black
dynoed at 247.5hp / 259.7ft-lb!
 
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flamark

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I study quite a bit in grappling and noticed much of it in his style. I would just like to expand out a little more. He is very talented.

Police Motto: Be Polite. Be Courteous. Have a plan to hug everyone you meet.
 
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U S Marine

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No doubt he's talented. He fights well even while he's down. He stays very calm. Negueira has beaten numerous people with the arm bar and a few choke holds. He has an impressive career. Great video. I've watched it numerous times. I've been going over the video with my son. I'd like him to give it a try. Kids are funny though. He looks at me and says: "Dad, I think you could beat him." I told him I probably COULD NOT and he called me a liar! WOW! What an image he has. I guess dad power goes a long way..
 
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RRocket

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Flamark,

You really can't go wrong with Muay Thai. I did kickboxing, then Muay Thai. When younger, before the big MMA craze, we used to fight with no pads. People used to tease us and say "no pads, no face, no brains". Traditional Muay Thai is brutal. Is is generally not taught in North America, though sometimes it is, but the actual fighting is no permitted. Knees, elbows, forearms, low kicks, flying knees and full clinching...all legal. In Thailand, these guys are AMAZING!! Only the Dutch come close...and even they lag behind. By the time one is a teenager in Thailand, they've had over 100 fights. They start them off young..one reason is so the shins calcify and get thicker and harder. Have seen a few guys get baseball bats broken over their shins. Don "The Dragon" Wilson, at the time Americas best kickboxer was destroyed twice by fighters in Thailand. Many say that if someone is able to master the Thai roundhouse low kick along with Judo or Jiu-Jitsu techiniques (as CroCop has), they are nearly unbeateable. (as CroCop is). I'm also VERY fond of Judo. The choke holds (shime-waza) in Judo are sneaky...and powerful. You've probably seen the triangle choke with the leg over ones head. (Sankaku Jime). Nogueira uses it frequently. I had Trish lay one on me, since I had never truly felt a solid one. She's a gymnast, and to my suprise, had me in the choke even before I had passed her guard properly. It is a very painful choke. Moreso than what Nogueira uses, as the proper Judo technique requires you to put your forearm under the neck and THEN crank the triangle on. I was tapping out furiously, but on her butt..and she thought I was just "hitting her". I almost blacked out. It was that fast. Pretty funny too. I frequently have her demonstrate the speed at which she can put this choke on, since she is so flexible and limber.
 
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MonsterMark

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She can choke on me, er, I mean choke me anytime.

Bryan
MonsterMark
 
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RRocket

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Bryan,

You might be right...she says she chokes on small bones!! But I'll pass the message along anyways...LOL :)
 
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MonsterMark

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Nice comeback...indeed.:p

Did I ever tell me you that a gymnast would be high on my list of priorities? Nice Bods.

Bryan
MonsterMark
 
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DavidCC

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it is EASY to find a MT teacher in the USA. And competitions are frequent. Here is a list of some schools...

but remember , MT is a sport, not really for self defense.

U.S.A.
Aiki Training Hall
4508 West Oakton, Skokie.IL 60076.
Attn:Rick Sollo
Tel:(1-708)6748424

American Muay thai Judge & Reference Association
Suite 5R, 400 Central park West
New York. N.Y. 10025.
Attn: John Ryan

America Mauy Thai Judge & Referee Association
205Old Corlies Ave,Neptune.NJ07753.
Attn:Fred Fitzgerald
Tel(1-908)922-0505

Asain American Martial Federation
295 Atwells Ave, Providence. R.I. 02903
Attn: Dennis Passaretti
Tel:(1-401)273-6380

Benny The Jet's Jet center
14540 Friar Street, Van Nuys.CA 9140
Attn: Mr Benny Urquidez
Tel:(1-818)7690885, 780-6774
Fax:(1-818)7800723

Degerberg Academy
47107 No.Lincoln Ave Chicago, IL 60625
Attn:Fred Degerberg
Tel(1-312)7285300

Fairtex Muay Thai Camp Inc.
100 S. Weber Drive, Chandler, AZ 85226
Attn:Bob Karmel
Tel:(1-800)255-THAI(1-602)940-0042
Fax:(1-602)940-0368

Fairtex Muay Thai and Boxing Camp
444 Clementina St.
San Francisco, CA
Tel: (415) 512-7727

Florida Thai Boxing Association
430 16th Street N.E.,Winter Haven.FL 33881
Attn: Jim Bryn
Tel:(1-813)2931206

Francis Fong Martial Arts Acedemy
3260 Satelite Blvd, Suite 700
Duluth,GA 30136
Attn: Francis Fong
Tel:(1-404)623-8090

Gietphongxay Muay Thai
457 Sherburne Ave, St.Paul. MN 55103
Attn: Mike Xayxana
Tel:(1-612)227-0750

Inosanto Acedemy
4051 Glenco Ave, #12
Marina Del Rey.CA 90710
Attn: Daniel Inosanto
Tel:(1-213)822-7315

Institute of Martial Arts
16849 W. Warren
Detroit, MI 48228
Tel: (313) 581-8999


Integrated Martial Arts Acedemy
66 Windsor Ave, Mineola, N.Y. 11501
Attn: Ray Longo
Tel:(1-516)742-4548

International Mauy Thai Association
Suite 1K, 6535 Broadway,
Riverdale,New York. N.Y. 10471
Attn: Clint Heyliger
Tel:(1-313)836-9674
Fax:(1-212)974-3209

International Mauy Thai & Kick Boxing Academy
11714 E, Wasington Blvd,
Whittier. CA.90606
Attn: Khun Lertnoi Looksurin
Tel:(1-310)695-2594

Michigan Mauy Thai Association
The academy of Maritail Arts Tevedadum,
Schaefer Road, Dearborn, Michican
Tel:(1-313)836-9674

Midwest Mauy Thai Academy
P.O.Box 2, Springfield.MO 65801
Attn: Khun Tong Trithara
Tel:(1-417)886-2974
Fax:(1-417)8869727

Mr.Paul Metayo
P.O.Box 11602, Fresco.CA 93774
Tel:(1-209)264-9237

Muay Thai Kickboxing Gym
Instructor Kru Rex
4631 Arminta St.
Van Nuys CA 91402
Tel: (818) 786-7922

Muay Thai Academy International
809 San Antonio Road, Suite #5,
Palo Alto, CA 94303
Tel:(1-415)493-3604

Muay Thai Academy of America Inc,
11204 Vanowen Street,
N.Hollywood CA 91605
Attn: Khun Chanchai Srinavakool
Tel:(1-818)760-3880

Muay Thai Association USA.Los Angeles Youth Club:
5th Flr,401 Avenue 19,
Los Angeles. CA 90032
Attn:Vut Kamnark
Tel:(1-213)664-7493

Muay Thai Association U.S.A.Suriyasak Thai Boxing Gym.
6568 Forsythai Street,
Springfield,VA 22150
Attn: Master K,
Tel:(1-703)719-7971

Muay Thai USA Association
5411 Russell Ave,Apt 14,
Los Angeles. CA 90027
Attn:Vut Kamnark
Tel:(1-213)962-5230

North American Muay Thai Association
295 Atweels Ave, Providence.RI 02903
Attn: Dennis Passaretti
TEl:(1-401)273-6380

North Florica Mauy Thai Association
10909 Atlantic Blvd, #5R,
Jacksonville, FL 32225
Attn: Kru Kevin Jacubs
Tel:(1-904)443-9300

N.Y. Mauy Thai Association, (Western Branch)
1163 Oak Place, Niagara Falls,
New York. NY 14304-6000
Attn: T.Mills
Tel(1-716)236-6302

Piston Defence Acedamy,Inc
9677 Turtle Dove ave,
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
Attn:Mr. Yuki Horiuchi

Siamsak International U.S.A Suite #72
179 Saratoga Avenue, Yonker,
New York NY 10705
Attn: Anthony Enright
Tel:(1-914)969-7928

State College Maritail Arts Acedemy,
134,East Foster Ave,
St college, PA 16801
Attn: Bill Gebhardt

Thai Boxing Association USA,
220 Irvine Street,
Santa Fe. N.M. 87501
Attn:Doug PAndrof
Tel:(1-505)984-8176

Thai Boxing Association USA
210 Valley Brook Road,
Mcmurray. PA15317
Attn: Don Garon
Tel:(1-412)9414900

Thai Boxing Association USA
83 Pomorey St, Cortland,
New York NY 13045
Attn: Kevin Seaman
Tel:(1-607)756-4961

Thai Boxing Association USA
7116 Wannaker lane,
Charlotte, N.C.28226
Attn: Rob Kelley
Tel:(1-704)541-6583

Thai boxing Association USA
140 W. 220th Street, Unit103,
Carson. CA 90745
Atnn: Khun Surachai Sirsute
Tel:(1-213)834-2724

Thai Boxing Association USA
105 S. 18thStreet,
Philadelphia. PA 19103
Attn: Robert Karmel
Tel:(1-215)561-4166

Thai Boxing Association USA
156 Hastings Place,
Syracuse. New York
Attn: Mitch Vannordstrand
Tel:(1-315)474-7378

Thai Boxing Association USA
257 W.Riverview Ave,
Pittsburgh. PA 15202
Attn: Hal Deily
Tel:(1-412)734-5254

Thai Boxing Association USA
1013 S.20th Ave,
Yakima. WA 98902
Attn:Doug Hay

Thai Boxing Association USA
1351 Pacheco,Santa Fe. NM87501
Attn: Arlan Sanford

Thai Boxing Association USA
311 Hardie Ave,
N.W. Renton, WA 98055
Attn: Terry Tipple
Tel;(1-408)297-4348

Thai Boxing Association USA
2924 Stark Street,
Eugence. OR 97404
Attn: Mike Walrath

Thai Boxing Association USA
437 S.Olsen,Kennewick.WA 99336
Atnn: Steven M. Wilson
Tel:(1-509)783-9416

Thai Boxing Association USA
14 Faber Road, Princeton.NJ 85400
Attn: Rick Tucci
Tel:(1-609)4522208

Thai Boxing Association USA
607 Washington Ave,
S.Minneeapolis,MI 55415
Attn: Greg Nelson
Tel:(1-612)825-2070

Thai Boxing Association USA
P.O.Box 42, Wythville, VA24382
Atnn: Jearl Sutherland
Tel:(1-703)228-4391

Thai Boxing Association USA
1334 Atlantic,Dubuque.IA 52001
Attn: Dean Lessie
Tel:(1-319)588-4147

Thai Boxing Association USA
8276 E.41 st Street , Tulsa.OK 74145
Attn: Terry H. Gibson
Tel:(1-918)627-8866

Thai Boxing Association USA
2901 River Rd, Eugene. OR 97404
Attn: Mike Walrath
Tel:(1-503)689-4289

The Buddhai Sawan Institute Of The U.S.A
3141 Darvany Drive, Dallas TX 75220
Attn: Jason Webster
Tel:(1-214)350-4406

Unified Fighting Concepts
340 Champion Ave E
Warren Ohio 44483
Attn: Ken Pfrenger






94 Mark VIII, Black / Black
dynoed at 247.5hp / 259.7ft-lb!
 
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RRocket

New member
David,

Yep..it easy to find one in the US, but the competitions aren't traditional MT. No elbows or forearms allowed. Believe me when I tell you, that in North America MT is waterered down some, and North American MT is almost a martial arts of its' own.
 
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