So what do you all think about Crackdown on Music Files

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And the argument that some make that the musicians and recording companies have made enough money and are rich so deserve to have the fruit of their labors stolen is insane! The musicians didn't start out rich, they worked their butts off to get where they are and they deserve every penny!
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The musicians do deserve to get paid, as does the record company. I'm not saying it's legal or even "okay" to download music. Those people who got caught, they broke the law and they got busted. No sympathy from me.

But I also have no sympathy for the record companies. They've been slow to catch on the digital revolution and partially helped themselves into this mess. I saw this coming years ago. If they want to stop the mass downloading, they need to offer a viable alternative. Their prices are too high, the quality of their product is too low. Like I said, they deserve to make money, but if you think $18 for a CD is a fair price then you must be sitting pretty.
 
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AWESOME Sandy! That was a really cool story.

If the Music Industry were to set up their own Kazaa, with a reasonable membership fee, I'd join and be perfectly happy.

I've been pissed at the record companies since they stopped shipping actual "records". Well, they never stopped, they are just a lot harder to get. And trying to find a six month old single, on CD or vinyl is still a hassle....unless you have Kazaa. :) :) :)

Kale
 
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I know the post office is trying to get email a pay-as-you-go fee so they can get some of the money. They feel that email is taking away from its profits.
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That's not exactly true. I saw something on MTV that touched on this subject. A big wig from the postal system said that post office business has actually increased due to the increase in online sales and shipping costs. Less letters are being sent, but more expensive packages are being handled to compensate.

Kale
 
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:) AWESOME Sandy! That was a really cool story. :)
Was not "Story" Was 100% truth. Boy was I ever mad mad mad at them. That 60-Special took away the sting. My (excellent) lawyer did okay too!! {For $48,000 per article :) I'll write for them all day long and they can put "Humpty Dumpty" down as author!! he he he !!!}
 
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one of the major problems with buying a cd is that they cost so much $. Personally I buy cd's all the time so shelling out 15 bucks or more a pop is absured. I hate downloading songs, I mean I do it but its a pain in the butt to do it, even with a cable modem. If they lowered the price of cd's, this whole internet thing wouldn't mean too much to them. I'd shell out probally the same amount of money on cd's but I'd be getting more of them. Making me feel like I'm getting a good deal and not being ripped off. I can get blank cd's for less than a dollar a cd, so there is no reason to pay 15 dollars for a cd when I can spend a dollar and make it myself. However if the cd was under 10 dollars. I use $15 as an example, alot of cd's can be near 20 dollars if not more.

To add ontop of the price problem, alot of cd's have only a few good songs, which means you're paying for music you don't want to hear, which is why people download only a few songs from the whole album.
Again thats another reason people mainly download music, to not pay for songs they don't want.

I'm sure there is no reason to charge so much money for the product, I'm sure they can make up their revenues in another manner.
 
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When I was downloading songs off Napster, I'll bet that 99.9% of the music I downloaded I already had either on vinyl or CD. I just wanted to hear certain songs while I was sitting on the computer and make a few mix tapes with some of my favorite songs for the car.

Still, I like to buy CD's, and I'm one of those people that like to buy a CD if I hear a song I like to listen to the rest of the band's music, but there was something nice about being able to put together a collection of just my favorite songs from different artists.
 
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When I was downloading songs off Napster, I'll bet that 99.9% of the music I downloaded I already had either on vinyl or CD. I just wanted to hear certain songs while I was sitting on the computer and make a few mix tapes with some of my favorite songs for the car.

Still, I like to buy CD's, and I'm one of those people that like to buy a CD if I hear a song I like to listen to the rest of the band's music, but there was something nice about being able to put together a collection of just my favorite songs from different artists.
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Ah, if you own the CDs and even vinyl then there is no problem in ripping your own collection of favorite songs to a CD or the PC. In fact you can get better quality as well when you rip your own from a CD.
 
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Being a MacAddict, I've used the iTunes feature to download songs from their site. 99¢ a song isn't too bad. I heard on the news that they've sold more than 10,000,000 songs since they started this service a couple months ago. Now the Beatle's owned record company (Apple) has decided to sue them for getting into the music business. :-(

The problem with CD's is that there usually are songs you don't care to hear or buy for that matter on most of them and when you can buy them for a buck a piece, you can burn just what you want to hear and not have to pay for what you don't.

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That's so true Trixie, it has become easier to find a song I want to hear off Kazaa, than it would be to search through all my CDs/Records/Tapes.

Kale
 
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Well I hope you all use Napster 2 this fall, I got stock in the company (Roxio Inc). It will be something like itune, pay for one song at a time or subscribe for a month, and they said they would start of with a catalog of 500,000 tunes. There are sight like this now, but people say they liked the old Napster interface.
 
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How can recrod execs continue to exploit new young talent if we aren't sending them money?!?!

The record companies ought to be spending those legal fees on setting up a micro-billing service so that we can create our own CD's online and either download or have shipped to us a copy. There is no putting the genie back in the bottle so they better figure out how to deal with him to get their wishes granted. Let artists opt-in to free sharing if they want, other artists can decide to micro-bill for their songs if they think people will pay for them. If there were a legal smart alternative lots of people would use it.

Record companies use download statistics to fine-tune radio distribution. Hypocrites!


Is it illegal for me to record a song I hear on the radio for my own enjoyment at a later time? Is downloading a song from the internet any different?



DC


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woo hoo, i am making money

http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/030917/1633001347_1.html

Dow Jones Business News
Roxio Shares Surge 25% on News of Samsung Partnership
Wednesday September 17, 4:33 pm ET
By Amy Braunschweiger, Of Dow Jones Newswires

NEW YORK -- Roxio Inc. (NasdaqNM:ROXI - News) shares rose 25% Wednesday after the company announced a partnership with Samsung Electronics Co. on a new portable digital music player for Roxio's soon-to-be launched online music service, Napster.
The new music player will be available in retail stores this fall, according to a press release, while Roxio plans to relaunch Napster, without its original file-sharing capabilities, during the holiday season. Napster 2.0 is expected to offer more than 500,000 songs, which can be transferred to portable devices and burned to CDs.

The partnership, according to the press release, will include joint engineering and co-marketing activities centered on a line of portable music devices that integrate with Napster 2.0. The Samsung devices will be co-branded and identified as "Napster compatible" on the packaging, the press release said.

The deal is "a step in the right direction" for Napster, wrote Gene Munster, analyst for U.S. Bancorp Piper Jaffray.

Adams Harkness & Hill analyst Steven Frankel told Dow Jones Newswires that " it's a very easy link" between purchasing the music player and using Napster. However, Mr. Frankel said, it is too soon to tell if the deal will attract music fans to Napster.

"If you make [the player] truly easy to use, and if the pricing is compelling and the experience is compelling," it could bring in customers, he said.

Samsung's music player, compared by Wall Street with Apple Computer Inc.'s ( AAPL) iPod, will be compatible with Windows-friendly online music services, not just Napster.

Mr. Frankel doesn't own shares of Roxio, nor does Adams Harkness have a banking relationship with Roxio. A company representative wasn't immediately available for comment.

As of 4 p.m. EDT, Roxio's shares were up $2.09, or 25%, to $10.46 on volume of 3.1 million shares, compared with average daily volume of 707,964 shares.

Samsung announced that it will launch its audio player Tuesday at its DigitALL Digital Inspiration 2003 Showcase conference in New York, shortly after the product was approved by the Federal Communications Commission (News - Websites) on Tuesday.

FCC's Web site has a copy of Samsung's user guide for the audio player, called the called Samsung Napster YP-910. The player will measure 70 millimeters by 108 millimeters by 20 millimeters. It will weigh 60 grams.

The user manual had many references to Napster, including how to install Napster's software and register at Napster.

The player's rechargeable battery will allow users up to 10 hours of play time. Music fans can listen to FM radio on the device, and can convert music from compact discs and cassettes into MP3 files.

Its internal memory capacity is 20 gigabytes.

-By Amy Braunschweiger; Dow Jones Newswires; 201-938-2205, amy.braunschweiger@dowjones.com
 
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Steve,
I think you are onto something. I have been hearing alot about this and there is some serious buzz. I might jump on the band wagon with this one. Good luck!
 
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uh-oh Steve... better cehck up on your investment

http://www.fool.com/News/mft/2003/mft03102302.htm?source=EDNWFT

David
94 Mark VIII, Black / Black
dynoed at 247.5hp / 259.7ft-lb!
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I seen that and it is up as of now. Also right now I have over a 25% unrealized gain. When I got it I knew it was purely speculative anyway so if it tanks no biggie.
 
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The record companies deserve all this. They dug their own grave and now they have to lie in it. For years they have practiced price gouging by selling CDs for $18 that cost pennies to make. Let me assure you the artists are NOT getting that $17.97 profit, they're getting the pennies. The music industry saw the digital age coming and instead of embracing mp3s and adjusting their business models to accomodate the changing trends, like Apple did with iTunes, they dug in and decided their customers will not move into the 21st century. They can sue half of America but progress will not be stopped by small minded people. It wouldn't bother me one bit to see a bunch of them bankrupt before they conceid defeat and change with the times.


Jason
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yes indeed! They do!

they need to drop the price of CDs, get the salaries of execs who contribute nothing to the artistic process in line with reality, find new better artists, stop churning out the same formula junk, and support new technology.

I should be able to walk into my local music store, go to a kiosk, select a handful of songs, have them burnt to a CD, and pay a reasonable amount for it.

I mean, why not, I can do all that in my basement - except the "pay for it" part!





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Well for what it is worth, I joined iTunes (MAC Web Site)and can download ACC files for 99 cents. What I have read, ACC files are top quality music files. Software is free. Nice player that you can sample the music before you download, and then you can burn a cd right from the player.
 
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