Blue Flame goes OBDII
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Mad1stGen
Booster
I pulled the cluster last night, and since I didn't have a spare handy, I swapped the seat belt indicator bulb in place of the charging bulb. :eek-large: All fine now.
The ASHAM8 was the "smaller" of two offenders; the speedcal gizmo took the cake. :mad-tilt:
What's not working in the A/C system ? Might be difficult to test my work if the system doesn't hold pressure or whatever will stop me from cycling the compressor ....
Tonight I need to re-run the 4GA power wire, and then feed the wideband harness thru the firewall. EATC is also still on the list.
The ASHAM8 was the "smaller" of two offenders; the speedcal gizmo took the cake. :mad-tilt:
What's not working in the A/C system ? Might be difficult to test my work if the system doesn't hold pressure or whatever will stop me from cycling the compressor ....
I actually drove the car down the street last night, and all trans functions are in order. :thumbsup:I'll take the blame for the blown charging light bulb but not the missing CEL bulb. Only two people besides you and I would have had access to pull the bulb for whatever reason. I'm pretty sure one did not and not so sure of the other.
I presume you're talking of the ASHAM8 module... yeah, it was a pain to install as well.
LOL... EVAP system? What's that?
Remind me to ask you about that scanner.
FYI... the AC has not worked for quite a while. It's not been very high on the punch list but I do plan on keeping it.
Tonight I need to re-run the 4GA power wire, and then feed the wideband harness thru the firewall. EATC is also still on the list.
driller
El Presidente
To the best of my recollection, it simply needs evacuated, leak tested and recharged?
Mad1stGen
Booster
That I can work around of ... no biggie.
Anyways,
The SCIL module ended up on the old amplifier tray in the trunk. Out of sight. :thumbsup:
Courtesy of an XCAL_3, the Livelink is up and running. That's the good news. Blue Flame is finally in the 21st Century:big-grin:
The bad news is that Xcal_2 JP provided cannot communicate with a standalone PCM for some reason (which SCT techs have no solution for). So it's either chips or xcal3.
Ford nut
New member
Humm, that is good to know but sucks, I assume its not just the xcal2 JP provided, but a xcal2 problem.
I would think its time to go xcal3.
Spend more money.
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driller
El Presidente
That seems to be a recurring theme with the Blue Flame. LOL
Mad1stGen
Booster
Wires. I see wires. Everywhere. :roll_over:
I finished all of the actual OBD2 swap yesterday. The EATC was giving me hell, but got it all figured out and working. I had to add some wires to allow the Gen2 unit to communicate with the PCM and VLCM over the mutliplex network. It's needed if you want the A/C compressor to come on once you hit MAX A/C button. The EATC calls PCM, PCM calls VLCM, which sends voltage to the A/C coil. Viola.
I also mounted the DLC port in the glove box, so that you can do all the tuning and whatnot in the or from the passenger's seat even with the glove box closed.
The stock location of the plug under the driver's knee panel always poses problems once a scanner is plugged in. I might actually move it on my other cars. LOL. :big-grin:
I need to tidy up some of the add ons like wideband, exhaust cut outs, who knows what else :err-what?: under the dash, but overall this one is DONE. :fart
If I have enough time before JP gets here, I might go over this mess of wires. Asham8 :mad-tilt:
I finished all of the actual OBD2 swap yesterday. The EATC was giving me hell, but got it all figured out and working. I had to add some wires to allow the Gen2 unit to communicate with the PCM and VLCM over the mutliplex network. It's needed if you want the A/C compressor to come on once you hit MAX A/C button. The EATC calls PCM, PCM calls VLCM, which sends voltage to the A/C coil. Viola.
I also mounted the DLC port in the glove box, so that you can do all the tuning and whatnot in the or from the passenger's seat even with the glove box closed.
The stock location of the plug under the driver's knee panel always poses problems once a scanner is plugged in. I might actually move it on my other cars. LOL. :big-grin:
I need to tidy up some of the add ons like wideband, exhaust cut outs, who knows what else :err-what?: under the dash, but overall this one is DONE. :fart
If I have enough time before JP gets here, I might go over this mess of wires. Asham8 :mad-tilt:
driller
El Presidente
Jeremi made it all look easy but I assure you the car fought him every step of the way.
I made the trip to pickup the Blue Flame today and she's sitting on the trailer ready to roll back home in the morning.
I just don't think Mrs. Driller believed all I had done was to change out the spark plug wires. :fart
I brought the PRP tuning stuff with me and after several computer 'updates' we finally got the chip burned while Jeremi finished tidying up under the dash. The car seems happier and runs well.
I can't wait to actually start tuning it but it's going to be a steep learning curve with the OBD2 and all the 'new to me' parameters. Once I get it 'roughed in', I hope to get some dyno time with it.
I made the trip to pickup the Blue Flame today and she's sitting on the trailer ready to roll back home in the morning.
I just don't think Mrs. Driller believed all I had done was to change out the spark plug wires. :fart
I brought the PRP tuning stuff with me and after several computer 'updates' we finally got the chip burned while Jeremi finished tidying up under the dash. The car seems happier and runs well.
I can't wait to actually start tuning it but it's going to be a steep learning curve with the OBD2 and all the 'new to me' parameters. Once I get it 'roughed in', I hope to get some dyno time with it.
driller
El Presidente
They usually have a track day in November at Cecil County Dragway that I go to. If the Blue Flame is ready and able, I plan to go and will make sure to post the date.
Meanwhile, I hope to get it ready to go to the SuperCoupe Shootout in KY the weekend of October 5th and 6th. I've only got 3 weeks to make that goal.
Then of course we have the Southern Super Heavy Shootout in Atlanta on November 2nd.
LSCmuscle
New member
Looking good as usual :wink:.
Congratulations on another awesome/impressive project, I'm sure it was no where near as easy as you made it look. Much props for the ambition and dedication to pull this off, very cool :thumbsup:.
On a side note, since my "new house searching" isn't going according to plan, that high pitch whinning sound in the back of my head keeps getting louder. How's your schedule looking, lol?
Congratulations on another awesome/impressive project, I'm sure it was no where near as easy as you made it look. Much props for the ambition and dedication to pull this off, very cool :thumbsup:.
On a side note, since my "new house searching" isn't going according to plan, that high pitch whinning sound in the back of my head keeps getting louder. How's your schedule looking, lol?
Mad1stGen
Booster
I have couple blower cars to put together (one big KB car, and one Eaton car), Joe's car is begging for attention, and then I was hoping to finish my turbo car over the winter. :roll_over:
Going on a couple weeks vacation soon too :err-what?:. I am sure we can get something done though before spring time. Plenty of good deals on 2nd gen 2.3 Whipples out there :love-it:
driller
El Presidente
I did a tune 'compare' between the W3Z2 tune and the new OBD2 tune using the Pro Racer Package by SCT.
I think it was about 747 pages listing the differences between the two tunes.
OK, maybe a bit exaggerated, but it was a LOT different.
First hurdle will be verifying the base fuel pressure and then establishing a connection to LiveLink to datalog.
Second hurdle will be tuning the MAF. The old tune listed air vs. MAF voltage where the new OBD2 requires air vs. tic counts from the MAF. Conversion will take a while but should get me close considering the alternative - start with the stock file, datalog, tweak and repeat - many times. I know there will be some tuning cycles anyways, so anything to reduce the number will help.
After that, it will be a laborious and tedious process isolating each parameter change and studying the differences in the EEC-IV application to the OBD2 platform.
I should probably start a whole 'nother thread on the tuning process! I'm sure it will be interesting. LOL
I think it was about 747 pages listing the differences between the two tunes.
OK, maybe a bit exaggerated, but it was a LOT different.
First hurdle will be verifying the base fuel pressure and then establishing a connection to LiveLink to datalog.
Second hurdle will be tuning the MAF. The old tune listed air vs. MAF voltage where the new OBD2 requires air vs. tic counts from the MAF. Conversion will take a while but should get me close considering the alternative - start with the stock file, datalog, tweak and repeat - many times. I know there will be some tuning cycles anyways, so anything to reduce the number will help.
After that, it will be a laborious and tedious process isolating each parameter change and studying the differences in the EEC-IV application to the OBD2 platform.
I should probably start a whole 'nother thread on the tuning process! I'm sure it will be interesting. LOL
mlschultz
Boost King
lol At which time... mlschultz reaches for the big red easy speed dial button and calls his favorite tuner... :wave:
Good luck with that JP!