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BigBoyBoelts
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OK I want that intake!!
Its NOT about horsepower with the Aviator motor. Just like we were saying on the other forums....the Aviator has more TORQUE so it gives the car the ability to move its weight a ton easier....which translates into a faster car. Just like swapping gears into a differential.
I don't need a booster seat and I was going to use this hood for my 03 Cobra swap.......but hey...maybe you're a midget?
46callaway
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J, I don't understand how you can say torque matters but hp doesn't. They are interrelated. What makes a car move is actually torque at the wheels and RPM.
Torque gets you off the line, HP is for speed. At low speeds, HP barely matters. Not that we are talking about a geo metro verses a porsche, but thats the idea. At higher speeds, its all about HP. At 60 MPH a high HP vehicle can accelerate a lot faster than a sportier smaller lower HP vehicle.
Your right though, they are interrelated because with more HP comes more torque.
Your right though, they are interrelated because with more HP comes more torque.
I haven't done the dimensional analysis myself, but I'm guessing that when both power and torque are broken down into their basic components (distance, time, mass, etc.), they have some in common.
46callaway
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Yea in any case the Aviator motor will put down a good deal more torque than a 4.6 DOHC with B heads because the 03 heads have a whole lot more velocity not just flow. That's why they don't need IMRC's. The Aviator variable length intake manifold also helps with broading the torque curve, as does the Mark VIII style cams.
Alright, let's write this out.
Torque = Force*distance = mass*acceleration*distance = mass*f(distance*time*time)*distance
In short, Torque = f(mass,distance,time)
The same can be done with power, and some of those basic dimensional components are exactly the same in both formulas.
They are interrelated in a sense, but they are two completely DIFFERENT animals. If you have 100 horse power and NO torque, you're car isn't going to move and vice versa.
Here is a perfect explanation of it, and like it says...."ask 10 different people what horsepower and torque are, and you'll get 10 different answers".
http://www.streettostrip.com/content/view/25/1/
All in all....the Aviator has MORE torque than the M8 so it will help get the beast moving FASTER than the M8 engine, but when it comes to "pull" at 70mph, the M8 engine with the more HP will be better.
BigBoyBoelts
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And that is more due to the fact that the M8 motor has those huge intake ports in the B heads, compared to the aviator motor.
46callaway
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Are you kidding? The Aviator has way more horsepower and torque than a Mark VIII engine. A bone stock Mark VIII with stock everything except Aviator motor will put down 270rwhp. A Mark VIII with all the bolt ons (headers, full exhaust, pulleys, intake, chip) will put down around 260rwhp.
Ya... I dont have the numbers right now. But stock to stock, the Aviator power plant has more torque AND more HP, but not much more HP... Keep in mind that I dont have the Aviator intake. BUT, the 03/04 engines are ALL nearly identical, the heads certainly are - Cobra, Aviator, etc..... there are very few differences that would make them much different. So by saying the M8 has more HP is like saying the M8 has more power than a Cobra from 03/04....
At 5250 rpm, both torque and HP are equally important.
and they are very close friends at that RPM..as well.
HAHA
I know.. he said "local KarKraft"
(shakes head)
KarKraft is the folks the shoe horned the BOSS 429 into the 70 Mustang.
KarKraft is like the MECCA for ford racing stuff.
46callaway
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Those numbers are under rated for the Aviator and the LSC is actually rated 295lbs torque.