'98 vs. '95 Mk8 intakes.........

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After looking at a pancaked '97 or '98 Mark VIII, I was fascinated by the intake manifold. I didn't realize Ford changed it from earlier models.

So....before I procure this other intake, is there any advantage to the newer intake over the old?

Will everything interchange or do I need to grab the brain box, MAF, etc. too?

Thanks..........
 
RE: '98 vs. '95 Mk8 intakes.........

From what I have heard the 93-96 Intakes are better. If you want a real advantage buy a cobra intake and slap it on a 97-98 Mark VIII.
 
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Yes there are some advantages to the Gen2 intake manifold. First of all the IMRC's are a different and better design from the Gen 1 and also the throttle bodies are front mount. The disadvantage is that the gen 1 intake manifold runners are slightly better designed.
 
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...the IMRC's are a different and better design from the Gen 1 and also the throttle bodies are front mount. The disadvantage is that the gen 1 intake manifold runners are slightly better designed.
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Man, did you open a can of worms....

The Gen 2 setup looks attractive specifically because of the TB location, as I want to attempt a cowl induction setup.

But then you start talking about which parts are "better," and I just can't ignore that.

So -- will the Gen 2 IMRC's work with a Gen 1 engine / intake? If so, is there anything involved beyond simple (?) bolt-in and appropriate gaskets?
 
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IMRC's on Gen1 are vacuum actuated; Gen2 is electrical motor driven. You'd be doing some extensive wiring/vacuum line work for any conversions.

Here's my take on the subject:

1. If I want performance, I would get the Gen1.
2. If I want ease of repair work (EGR, IAC, TPS, etc), I would get the Gen2.

One note: In either case, I do not know how much more performance/ease of repair you get from a Gen1/Gen2 intake, repectively. I've only worked on Gen1. If someone were to tell me that I would save an hour of repair labor (say an EGR swap) by sacrificing 1 hp, I might go with the Gen2 intake. But again, I don't know the specifics either way.
 
RE: '98 vs. '95 Mk8 intakes.........

That Gen 2 intake is a POS and you will loose power if you install this intake onto your car. We have alread hashed this topic up 100 times. I cut one apart and showed how flawed the Gen 2 is. If i remember correctly 6out of the 8 cyl were either baised by the primary or secondary port.

Do not waste your time with a gen 2, just put on a 96-98 cobra benifit from A SIGNIFICANT increase on power instead of chasing your tail around.
 
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...We have alread hashed this topic up 100 times. Do not waste your time with a gen 2, just put on a 96-98 cobra benifit from A SIGNIFICANT increase on power instead of chasing your tail around.
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I tried to do a search on the subject, but wasn't thorough enough -- sorry for rehashing the subject!

As I get more money for my project (my beautiful wife constantly reminds me that I spent my wad for now....) I'll have to search out the Cobra.

Thanks again!
 
RE: '98 vs. '95 Mk8 intakes.........

What Joe said.

The only thing a gen 2 intake is good for is selling to some mustang guy who's putting a DOHC motor in his GT and can't afford a Cobra intake. The only advantage is TB location.
 
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I dunno if it's that big of a restriction, i'm running the same times with the 98 LSC as I did with the 95 LSC when it had the same mods, possibly even faster with the 98 I gotta check my old timeslips. Also, there is no doubt the plastic IMRC's with the enlarged ports which are matched to the heads much better than the older design are a definate improvement over the gen 1 intake manifold. These are the same IMRC's as the 98 Cobra, the 96/97 Cobras had the aluminum IMRC's.
 
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I picked up a consistent 5 mph at the track by switching to a Cobra intake in my '97. That was before the gears, headers, or converter.
 
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Wow so if I swapped out my 98 intake for a 98 Cobra one I would be trapping 102mph+ with no gears, headers, or converter? My 95 trapped 101.3mph (highest mph) but it had no headers, converter, or cobra intake just the 4.30 gears.
 
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